I've just applied a software patch that is supposed to fix the various problems with the Mark All Threads Read command. In the past, threads you've read have often come back as being indicated as unread after a period of time. As a result, it was difficult to determine which forums and threads had new posts. It also broke the Threads I have not read shortcut.
I suggest that you visit each topic in the forum and click the Mark All Threads Read button. From then on, the read thread indicators should reflect the correct state.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
You need to use the Mark All Threads read option once for each
Forum. Unfortunately, there is no way to do this globally with a
single click. You'll have to visit each Forum and do it
individually. Once you've done this, you should not see threads
(Topics in Forum parlance) marked unread unless a new post has been
added to it. This is what the patch is supposed to fix.
My
own experience since the patch was applied has been that the thread
indicators and the Posts I Have Not Read shortcut are working
properly. SInce this functionality is implemented on our server,
everyone should have the same experience regardless of the OS or
browser they're using when it comes to this particular feature.
If you're not seeing an improvement now, please let me know.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
is there a time frame on how long it takes to implement the "mark all as read"?
I went thru the first 4 areas and marked them as read but after refreshing the main page there was no change? I'll post again if they show up as "read". thanks!
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
The folder icons on the main page can take a few hours to change as
they are cached. Local cache settings on your browser can also
come into play. The thread icons themselves should be speedier to
show the correct state and you'll see an immediate change the content
of the Posts I Have Not Read shortcut after doing a Mark All Threads
Read.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
it doesn't work for me.
I go thru and mark everything as read manualy on each individual thread or as a group ..
if I mark each thread individually it will be marked as read and go to a lighter shade of gray for the session but next time I open it up in another computer it shows up as unread. (I use about 3 different computers (at least) during the day so its hard for me to rely on my own computer cache or whatever it is to view something as read).
oh well I'll just go back to scanning each thread manually to keep an eye on whats new.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
This may be an issue with your browser cache settings. I don't
currently have a Mac or access to Safari so I can't tell you what to
try in this regard. (Except maybe, stop drinking the Apple
Kool-Aid and use FIreFox[;)] )
I too use multiple computers through out the day, and the read
state is being reflected properly on all of them. As I said, the
read posts information for each user is stored on the server, so with
the possible of exception of your browser cache misbehaving, your
experience should be no different than mine.
Here's something
try. Pick a forum and use the Mark All Threads Read option.
Then click on Posts I have not read in the Shortcuts Menu, select that
Forum the drop down and view the results. There should be no
posts listed. When you next see a post you have read in that
Forum marked as unread go to the Posts I have not read shortcut, select
that Forum from the drop down and check for existance of that post in
the list. If it's not there, then this is an issue with your
browser cache.
BTW,
this may seem obvious, but I have to ask: you are aware that
threads marked read will be marked as unread if a new post is added to
the thread or an existing post is edited?
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
well I've dug into it more, Safari does not remember historys (web pages visited) for more than 24 hours, especially if you put your computer to sleep rather than restarting. (almost all Mac users just put thier computers to sleep, turning a computer off is pretty foreign to most mac users although I know many windows users still have to do it alot).
Does the same thing on Firefox as well unless you change the default history preferences to go back in time.
I do prefer using Safari for all my webbrowsing. I do double check my webpages I make so they work correctly on Windows I.E. and Firefox and even Netscape but I myself just prefer Safari. I do hope someday a future update can bring back the "remembered" forums section as presently its quite a chore to have to read thru every topic to see what is going on etc.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
Page visit history is different from page cacheing and I suspect that you have a cacheing issue with your browser.
I asked this before, but didn't get an answer (post 27890), do these previously read threads actually show up in thePosts You Have Not Read shortcut view or are they just marked incorrectly in the main view?
I've had the opportunity to log into the Forum on many different machines, including one in an airport inCosta Rica last week, and I've yet to see a thread marked unread that I've read previously since employing this fix. Again, this state is maintained on the server, so why your experience is different than mine, and why this fix has made the situation worse than previously for you, is a complete mystery to me.
We may have to set up a controlled experiment to get to the bottom of this problem, but answer my question about the shortcut view first, please.
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
doh!
I wasn't referring to "posts not read" area,
just to the highlighting that goes away when you look (click on) a
specific thread discussion.
After you click on that
thread on my browswers it goes from black to a medium gray for threads
that are recent. And to a light gray for threads that are older.
It
was my habit to keep up with the forum just by watching which posts
showed up on the main forum page in "black" type. But the changes
made the black type show up every 24 hours no matter if a particular
thread was clicked on or not.
used to if you clicked
on a thread it would go "gray" and stay gray no matter what browser or
computer I was using to look at a page, or am I imagining that?
My
main issue is I use at least 2 computers to look a the forum, one at
home, and one at work. Sometimes I use two different computers at
home, especially if I'm recording on the pipe organ I'll use a older
laptop (a old ibook running osx) to surf the web during particularly
long pieces ....anyhow back on topic, I use alot of computers to look
at the page.
I think I have figured it out though by
changing the preferences in Firefox to remember visited links for 300
days rather than the default of 2 days or whatever it is that it was
set at.
Unfortunately on Safari there is no easy way
of changing the # of days a page is visited befoer it shows up as a new
page again. UNLESS you go in and change with the source code on
Safari, which is something I'm leary of doing.
Anyhow,
I'm getting used to it now and think I have it figured out. I
know its a huge headache to try to get things to work to where eveyrone
is happy... the forum is doing fantastic and looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Mark All Threads Read & Read Thread Indicators
Ok. I think I'm following you.
Let's define some terms:
[*]Forum Groups: These contain
Forums. For example Organ Music is a Forum group containing the
Classical, Liturgical, Theatre, etc. Forums.
[*]Forums: These are contained in a Forum Group and have
folder icon next to them on the main page. A folder icon with a page in
it means there are posts that you have not read in the Forum. An
empty folder icon means there are no unread posts in that forum. The
text in the Last Post Read column is a link to the last post added to
the Forum. It is not an indication of whether there are unread
posts in that Forum.
[*]Topics: These are contained within a Forum and have a page
icon next to them. If the icon is in color, the Topic contains
posts you have not read. If the page icon is gray, it means there
are no unread posts in that topic. You can optionally hide Topics
with no unread posts so that they won't appear in the Forum unless
there is an unread post in them.[*]Posts: These are the individual messages contained in a
Topic. When a new post is added to a topic, the Topic's page icon
changes to a color version, and the Topic's Forum folder icon will
contain a page.[/list]
So, it should be clear that the easiest way to determine if new
posts exists is to look at the Forums folder icon. If it is shown
containing a page, enter that Forum to view the Topics. If a
Topic has unread posts, the page icon will be in color. Click on
that topic to see the new posts.
Tip: Change the display order of the posts to display the newest one's first. Saves a lot of scrolling.
Until the recent fix, the state of these icons was
unreliable. They often indicated new posts when there were
none. The icons are now reliable.
Apart from the visual cues provided by the icons, you can use the Posts You Have Not Read shortcut to, err..., see a list of all the posts you have not read which you can then click on, read and respond to.
Finally,
you can receive email notifications when new posts are added to topics
you determine to be of special interest, or use the RSS feature for the
same purpose, but that's a whole 'nother topic.
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