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    From the Miami Herald:



    Posted on Thu, May. 07, 2009

    Remember how Pepsi tasted in '60s? It's back



    BY BARRY SHLACHTER

    McClatchy News Service


    Baby boomer, Texas author and food writer



    Bowing to consumer trends, two soft drinks with connections to the past were launched last week for a national, but brief, eight-week run.


    Pepsi Throwback and Mountain Dew Throwback are sweetened with sugar made from cane and beets, unlike their namesakes, which use high-fructose corn syrup. High-fructose corn syrup has been the mainstay for soda pop since the 1970s.


    The intent, said Pepsi spokeswoman Nicole Bradley, is to remind baby boomers what the two drinks tasted like back in the 1960s and '70s. ''And for Millennials, they're something new,'' Bradley said, generally referring to those born in the 1980s and 1990s.




    The sugar-sweetened products come as more consumers are returning to sugar and forsaking corn syrup, which is criticized as a contributor to obesity. The price of corn syrup has also risen with the advent of corn-derived ethanol for fuel, undercutting the cost advantage it long held over cane or beet sugar.

    But nostalgia, more than cost or health concerns, is driving at least some of the new popularity, industry sources say. For example, Snapple, the line of non-carbonated drinks owned by Dallas-based Dr Pepper Snapple Group, announced in March that sugar is replacing corn syrup in its drinks. Snapple, launched in 1972 by the Unadulterated Food Co., initially supplied health-food stores.

    Coca-Cola from Mexico, which is made using cane sugar, finds a fan base in consumers who are willing to pay 50 percent more than American Coke.

    And then there's sugar-sweetened Dr Pepper from the small town of Dublin, Texas. It also commands a hefty premium -- but Dublin is no longer the only source of such Dr Pepper.



    A TREND

    Recognizing the demand, several other Dr Pepper bottlers now have special production runs of the sugar-made variety. And Dr Pepper Snapple Group itself has taken advantage of the trend by having its wholly owned North Texas distribution unit secure sugar-sweetened supplies from the Dr Pepper bottler in Temple.

    Both Pepsi and Coca-Cola produce their signature products with sugar to be kosher for Passover, although they sell them only for a short period every year.

    Since 2005, however, Coke began directly importing some Mexican-made cola from one of its bottlers to satisfy a small but loyal market niche, said David Swords, an Austin-based spokesman for the company. ''It's a reminder of home for many Mexicans here,'' he said.

    Coke does not produce a sugar-sweetened version in the United States, except for Passover.

    ''The reason is that our research indicates that there is no discernible difference in taste,'' said Ray Crockett, a company spokesman in Atlanta. ``A Coke is a Coke.''

    Although Pepsi Throwback will leave the market by the end of June, the company also has begun test-marketing a sugar-sweetened product called Pepsi Premium in about 10 cities, Bradley said.

    While high-fructose corn syrup has become the target of some food activists, studies that report greater obesity and other health problems in people who drink corn-syrup-sweetened soft drinks often did not make comparisons with people who drink their sugar-sweetened counterparts.

    In addition, says the Corn Refiners Association, some tests used abnormally high amounts of fructose not found in the human body instead of testing corn syrup. ''This has created confusion,'' said Audrae Erickson, the industry group's president.

    Last year, the American Medical Association concluded that ''high-fructose syrup does not appear to contribute to obesity more than other caloric sweeteners.'' Such syrup is a blend of nearly equal amounts of fructose and glucose.

    The watchdog group Consumers Group says both corn syrup and sugar deliver empty calories.



    While high-fructose corn syrup has been implicated in a rise in type 2 diabetes, obesity and other health problems, there's no clear evidence that it increases their risk more than regular sugar does,'' the group said. Few sweeteners provide nutrients, it said, with the exception of old-fashioned blackstrap molasses, which contains some calcium and iron.

    The switch to sugar coincides with huge swings in the price of corn coinciding with demand for corn-derived ethanol.

    U.S. EXCEPTION



    Most of the world sweetens its soda pop with sugar. The exception is the United States, at least in part because of government programs that keep American-produced sugar higher than the world price and other programs that keep corn prices low -- at least, before the ethanol boom struck.

    ''The common thinking was that wherever producers could get away with substituting HFCS for sugar, they would,'' said Jack Roney, director of economic and policy analysis with the Sugar Alliance, a Washington-based industry group.

    In the early 2000s, the spot market price of dry-weight corn syrup was 15 to 19 cents per pound, compared with 25 cents for sugar, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture figures. But the gap has narrowed. Sugar now runs 31 to 35 cents, while the corn-derived sweetener fetches roughly the same, 33 cents.

    However, Roney notes that big buyers like Pepsi and Coca-Cola likely do not rely on the spot market, instead signing long-term contracts from big suppliers. He speculated that such deals might allow them to buy corn syrup for as low as 25 cents a pound.

    Roney said that whatever the pricing difference or similarity, the actual cost of ingredients in a soft drink is probably far less than the 15 percent found in many grocery items.

    ''It's not an issue of pricing,'' agrees John Sicher, editor and publisher of Beverage Digest . ``It's a way to appeal to consumers who might like something different, something more traditional.''

    Erickson, of the corn refiners group, acknowledges flat or slightly declining use of corn syrup in soft drinks. He blames not sugar-sweetened rivals, but the popularity of bottled water and diet drinks.

    USDA statistics show a slight decline of total corn-syrup deliveries since 2000. But the use of sugar in soft drinks has surged from 39,532 tons in 1998 to 123,365 tons in 2008, the department said.

    That might be a generational thing.



    BLIND TASTE TEST


    Robb Walsh, a Texas author and food writer, did a blind taste test of the two versions of Dr Pepper. His nonscientific study involving Houston Press colleagues found that preferences depended on what the individual drank growing up.

    ''I would taste Dublin Dr Pepper and just have these waves of nostalgia and think the flavor was resplendent,'' said Walsh, a baby boomer. ``The young people who didn't grow up on it found it tasted weird.''



    http://www.miamiherald.com/living/v-...y/1034697.html



    I know this is not organ related but I am just glad that young folks can finally taste what Pepsi used to taste like in the USA. I go to Brazil alot and I always LOVE drinking Coca-Cola made with real sugar versus the corn syrup like it is here in the states.


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    What a sweet article. [:D]</P>


    I go to Brazil alot
    That sounds intriguing - I'd like to hear more (via PM if you prefer).Myvisit therewas spectacular. [ip]
    </P>

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      Interesting article. Coke and pepsi products here in the Yucatan are sweetend with sugar and it very much reminds me of the flavor of these drinks from my youth. I was surprised to learn the state of Yucatan consumes more coke per capita than anywhere in the world. My Mexican neighbors have cases of coke delivered to their house on a regular basis. The Yucatan also has a very high rate of diabetes, obesity and other health problems.

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        Snapple has also begun to use sugar. Their new tagline is "Made from the Best Stuff." I suppose we can expect a flood of "new" labels on the hundreds of copycat products that will follow. That said, I prefer products with sugar.

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          I drink NO pop, NO Hawaiian Punch or Kool-Aid, and NO alcohol (I'm underage anyway.) The only thing carbonated that I drink is seltzer water, plain or with natural lemon or lime flavor. I avoid the others to try to save my teeth after my parents have put so much into orthodontics (plus, when I'm old, I may be too poor to buy dentures [:D]
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          However, I do drink (black, never decaf) coffee in large amounts. Before I go out for evangelism in Buffalo, I always stop at Tim Horton's and get a 32-oz. iced coffee. There is a wonderful coffee shop by Eastman (Java's) and I usually buy a single espresso after my lesson. Onkel Irvine and Tante Dory came for a visit and I consumed 6 cups of coffee before they left at 1:30AM. And then I slept like a baby. When my family goes to Old Country Buffet (free drinks and refills) I drink coffee faster than they can drink Coke or root beer.
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            That describes me also, Philip. Except I also drink lots of milk and enjoy wine on a less-regular basis. I have always found champagne to be much more pleasant than real pain. LOL!</P>


            [:$]</P>

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              Menchie,</p>

              I drink milk too, except for when eating red meat. Someone told me once that milk blocks the digestion of protein...I don't know if it's urban legend though.</p>

              When we have sparkling grape juice at new year, I drink 5 goblets or so.
              </p>

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                I avoid drinking sodas, and caffeine overall. I mostly have juice with my meals. I go back to drinking a bit of soda when I am visiting my home country of Mexico.I like the taste it has there as opposed to what it tastes like in the US. I can not really describe what it is.

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                  Speaking of Mexico... today I drank one of these with my lunch:</P>


                  </P>


                  It was a Tamarindo, which I like. [:)]</P>

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                    There's a huge tamarindo tree in my neighbors yard that hangs into my gardenand over the pool. It's leaves are causing damage to my pool pump and filter. I can't tell you how much I have come to hate that tree! However, I do like tamarindo. Another neighbor makes the drink, a very nice flavor, but drink too much and you'll be running to the bano [+o(]

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                      Oh dear... [:D]</P>


                      Do you like horchata? That's another of my favorite drinks when I'm south of the border (or not).</P>

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                      • #12
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                        No I don't usually drink horchata. I'm afraid to drink anything out of those big counter top jugs with open tops thatthey scoop the drink out of. I've seen the powdered mix at the super, but never tried it.

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                        • #13
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                          I didn't even know that the formula of those major brands was regionaly different. Might be interesting to try out. Not that I'm a big carbonated stuff drinker, when I drink that it is because my stomach is upset.

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                            [quote user="Mondochuck"]There's a huge tamarindo tree in my neighbors yard that hangs into my gardenand over the pool. It's leaves are causing damage to my pool pump and filter. I can't tell you how much I have come to hate that tree! However, I do like tamarindo. Another neighbor makes the drink, a very nice flavor, but drink too much and you'll be running to the bano [+o(][/quote]</P>


                            Aye! Yo no deseo una lavativa, por favor!</P>

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                              [quote user="Mondochuck"]There's a huge tamarindo tree in my neighbors yard that hangs into my gardenand over the pool. It's leaves are causing damage to my pool pump and filter. I can't tell you how much I have come to hate that tree! However, I do like tamarindo. Another neighbor makes the drink, a very nice flavor, but drink too much and you'll be running to the bano [+o(][/quote]</p>

                              Would that be jamaica (huh-mike-uh) tea? We bought some once for a party and after we drank it all, a Spanish-speaking guest read the package and told us it was a laxative.[:S][*-)][+o(] Tasted good though.
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