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  • #16
    Originally posted by Admin View Post
    People do not participate in Forums because they are compelled to. They participate because they perceive a benefit to themselves and others. That is the reason I started this Forum 16 years ago. I'd have been better off financially if I had spent the time I've put into this Forum over the years working a minimum wage job instead. The idea that Forum owners, such as myself, sit back and rake in the spoils of others efforts is naive and insulting to me.

    This is a free Forum. Its content is publicly viewable without charge or membership. If you feel you are being exploited by participating here, that is easily remedied.
    You misunderstood the gist of the intention of the post. That may not be perceived as "exploitation" per se but rather an inconsideration for the intentions were not as you pegged them.

    Be that as it may, the database is what it is. Why do you think Zuckerberg started Facebook? So people could have a nice time online? No he did it to glean all the information on people which he sells to corporations that pay him for such info.

    Whether you make money at this now or later, the information in the database is worth something some time down the line. Yes the forum is free just as Facebook is free. But the information value accumulates whether one realizes it or not. And that is given at the expense of the poster.
    I did not insult you. I did not force you to react the way you did based on your misunderstanding of my position.

    If my participation is misunderstood then that is not my fault. And consequently not my loss!

    Consider that other members got similar misgivings of the OP's post. And to reiterate, he got what he wanted and then some.

    You attacked the wrong person, sorry to say.


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    • myorgan
      myorgan commented
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      Originally posted by Goff
      Be that as it may, the database is what it is. Why do you think Zuckerberg started Facebook? So people could have a nice time online?
      Goff, I was one of the first 100-200K users of The FB when it was still between the colleges. For my masters, my professor required us to join a new "social networking site." I told her I'd just pick up the phone to call someone if I needed to talk to them!

      Mark Z. started FB because he was socially isolated, and wanted to find a date. The rest came later. Knowledge is power.

      Michael

  • #17
    I run a decent-sized forum myself (13.500 members since 2006) and it's totally free (and ad-free) - I understand that Admin reacted the way he did. Of course a forum database is "worth" something, but there are people on both sides of the big oceans who're in fact not interested in selling this information and who run their forums for other reasons than making money. Of course everything and everyone can be compromised in a way, but I'm generally looking on the bright side and assuming good things of people. Let's give each other the benefit of the doubt more often.

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    • #18
      KC9UDX I am dyslexic and my ADD goes with it.
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      • myorgan
        myorgan commented
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        Thank you for the clarification, Ben. That helps us understand your manner of posting much better. If you don't mind me asking, does that also include dysgraphia?

        I have 2 students presently who are dyslexic. Have you ever tried a colored overlay? For some people, yellow helps, while for others, a light green or blue works for them. It takes some experimentation. We use the transparent report covers one can purchase at the local office supply store.

        Hope this helps.

        Michael

        P.S. I think I might be ADD as well, but they weren't diagnosing it when I was a child.

    • #19
      Personally, organ music trumps politics. Currently, I'm biden' my time until I get a recently acquired 3-manual by AOC playing again. I hope to make that organ great again.

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      • Ben Madison
        Ben Madison commented
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        Show us your stuff, be willing to tune in.

    • #20
      Originally posted by Goff View Post
      Be that as it may, the database is what it is. Why do you think Zuckerberg started Facebook? So people could have a nice time online? No he did it to glean all the information on people which he sells to corporations that pay him for such info.

      Whether you make money at this now or later, the information in the database is worth something some time down the line. Yes the forum is free just as Facebook is free. But the information value accumulates whether one realizes it or not. And that is given at the expense of the poster.
      Which is irrelevant since the poster is exercising free-will in paying that expense. Further, knowledge is valuable and so there is no way to accumulate it without adding to its value. Now if you're advocating for socialism or communism whereby everything is held in common, I get your point, but we live in a capitalistic society in which everything can be, and typically is, monetized. The price to participate on Facebook is your privacy. You can choose to do so or not based on the value perceived in return. Whether that enriches Zuckerberg and his stock holders is irrelevant.

      The price to participate here, if you want to look at that way, is that your questions, answers, and comments are placed in a database that I pay for, maintain, and share without charge to the entire world.

      I did not insult you. I did not force you to react the way you did based on your misunderstanding of my position.

      If my participation is misunderstood then that is not my fault. And consequently not my loss!
      The meaning of a message is in how it's understood, not its intent. You made a generalized statement regarding Forums and Forum owners that did not exclude this Forum or myself that I found logically fallacious and insulting. I did not attack you, I told you how I perceived your comment.


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