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  • #31
    I never thought to search craigslist for "piano" in hopes of finding a mislabeled keyboard, but now I just might see if there's anything good amongst the myriad free uprights
    I probably own too many keyboards
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    • musicgeek854
      musicgeek854 commented
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      If you find a good Karn you'll definitely be happy. My Karn is very durable (not to mention weighs probably+/-600 lbs). Also The sound is very good.

  • #32
    Originally posted by snacks View Post
    I never thought to search craigslist for "piano" in hopes of finding a mislabeled keyboard, but now I just might see if there's anything good amongst the myriad free uprights
    Good luck with that. Most freebies are landfill looking for a truck.
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    Hammond M-102 #21000.
    Leslie 147 #F7453 in the queue.
    Hammond S-6 #72421

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    • musicgeek854
      musicgeek854 commented
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      Some people don't like uprights but not all of them are junk. I have a Karn upright piano and It may need some minor maintenance but it sounds great!

  • #33
    I was on leave from the Army killing time at the USO in downtown San Diego when I saw a 'music room' with a piano. To my great surprise, it was a 76-key acoustic (I had never seen one), but the instrument was totally unplayable. Utterly out of tune and about a third of the keys did not sound. It was the only time I wished for a digital piano. Also, the irony of a beat-up old piano in a brand-new facility was an amusing disparity.
    Allen, circa 2006

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    • musicgeek854
      musicgeek854 commented
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      So many uprights that haven't been taken care of.

  • #34
    Hmm... Could I put my guitar amp close to the piano strings for better sound?

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    • #35
      Originally posted by musicgeek854 View Post
      Hmm... Could I put my guitar amp close to the piano strings for better sound?
      Not necessarily "better". But do it, you'll be amazed. Even a small zither does this impressively.

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      • #36
        Just for the sympathetic vibration. I definitely want to try it.

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        • #37
          KC9UDX. For some reason, the answer I gave to your question about putting mikes inside digitals for sympathetic resonance is not there any more - just the quote from your post.

          For the record, Yamaha did just that for some years, they called it iAFC. Inter Active Field Control. It worked effectively but technology has marched on a long way since. Now we have damper resonance and sympathetic string resonance as a matter of course from mid range digital pianos upwards. In fact Kawai have now put it into sub $1000 pianos.

          No it won't ring if you shout next to it, but it is very effective! As for actions, some top end digitals from Yamaha and Kawai are now taking a real grand piano action and transplanting it!
          It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

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          • snacks
            snacks commented
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            Just a couple months ago a friend told me about a Kawai piano with the real grand action. Sounds like a great idea, if a bit heavy. In the end my friend went with a Roland keyboard for portability - he had trouble getting the Kawai up and down stairs for gigs, and the hard case didn't help the weight

        • #38
          I love the idea of the real piano action. btw do pipe organs have sympathetic resonance?

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          • snacks
            snacks commented
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            Not to the extent a piano does, I don't think... But I'd never thought of that. I'm guessing the sound is lost in a pipe organ sized room where you're not as close to the pipes as you are to a piano's strings

        • #39
          Originally posted by davidecasteel View Post
          IMHO, a "piano" has 88 keys--anything with fewer is NOT a piano. It's also not a piano if it doesn't sound like one. And I probably discount any keyboard instrument, otherwise qualified, that has voices other than piano.

          David
          My upright from the 1890's has 86 keys. I guess it's not a piano then.

          I think, personally, that if we as organists are going to allow pipeless toasters be called organs, then we have no business in deciding that a piano is anything other than something that sounds and functions as a piano. As a pipeless toaster user, I'm perfectly happy with this.

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          • #40
            Lol yes. your right.

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            • #41
              Has anyone else noticed that on craigslist, every grand piano is listed as a 'baby grand', when most times it is not? Really rubs me the wrong way.
              Hammond RT-3, Estey circa 1903, Baldwin Acrosonic spinet piano, Fender Rhodes Mark I 73 stage piano.

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              • samibe
                samibe commented
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                I'm a piano tech and every time someone mentions that they want to buy or they saw/played a baby grand, I cringe. If they haven't already purchased one, I usually tell them to pass on an overpriced spinet that has a grand action. If space is an issue I'll tell them to save their money and get a nice studio upright. Most people (and repertoire) do not require the repetition speed of a grand action. If the person's skills require a grand action, I tell them to make room for a full 6'+ grand.

            • #42
              Originally posted by ChristopherDB113 View Post
              Has anyone else noticed that on craigslist, every grand piano is listed as a 'baby grand', when most times it is not? Really rubs me the wrong way.
              I have noticed that too... Think it might be deliberate as a baby grand would generally be more attractive space wise...

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              • voet
                voet commented
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                Or it could be the person placing the ad has no idea of the different adjectives to describe a grand and what they mean. Years ago a parishioner after seeing the organ console asked, "Why do you need more than two keyboards, you only have two hands?"
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