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    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is likely that 'm going to buy a Rodgers 330. It is an analog 3 manual classicorgan that looks like all the other 330'sI find pictured or describedon the webexcept that the stops are TABS - not draw knobs. I also find the 330 ina 1981 Rodgers brochure "Our Family Tree" which shows it asthe "</SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Providence</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 330", and again, it has draw knobs. I believe the stop list for the draw knob version is the same as the tab version.The organ appears to be working perfectly, plays beautifully, and the walnutconsole is truly mint.What are not with the organ are the Owner's and Service manuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will contact Rodgers and hope that they are still available. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The tabs are what I think of as the "older" style Rodgers used before the750-BI or E came out.On this older stylenear the end of the tab at about where thelettering isthe sides are shaped inward to become a bit concaved then continue to an end that isnearlya square shape and a bit more narrow than the rest of the tab. I would guess but would like to know for sureif that means that the organ was made around the mid 1970's.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hope to have the serial number today and it may confirm a year of manufacture.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know it identifies the model as "330".<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Some other question Ihave are.... <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There are 4very large speaker cabinets.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One consists of ganged M-10's for 2 channels along with 4 amplifiers for 4 channels.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2 others speakers that may be M3's.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also, another one much larger than a refrigeratorused for Echo.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Unfortunately, there is no P-1 speaker with a 30" woofer.At this point, I believe all the speakers are combinations ofRodgers, but they are mostly covered in speaker fabric and, other than the M-10's, it is difficult to know for sure. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can't get all of theminto my house and still have a living room and a partner that doesn't think I've completely cracked up. My question is how are many channels mixed down tofewer channels? Is some sort of pre-amp or device required? If so, are those devices available for an organ of this age?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My thought is to convert however many channels there are down to 2 channels with smaller speakers and store the speakers that came with the organ.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The reverb system is typical built-in Rodgers. Is there an Alesisthat would reverberate different frequencies at different rates available for this organ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for any help/advice or just your thoughts.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Vince<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

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    Re: Rodgers 330 with tabs



    Hi</P>


    Found out that the serial number for the Rodgers 330 with tabs is 33549. Does anyone know how to decipher those numbers to extract a date of manufacture?</P>


    Thanks, Vince</P>

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      Re: Rodgers 330 with tabs



      If you contact the Rodgers factory they can tell you when the organ was built and where it was shipped.</P>


      The 330 was offered as a tab organ, electro-mechanical drawknobs, or lighted drawknobs. Originally it was offered with just 8' couplers, or with an Extended version (sub &amp; supler couplers as well as unison), but later versions were just the Extended version, so the tab console doesn't date the organ to any extent.</P>


      Rodgers used the notched style tabs on their bigger models from their beginning (from what I can tell) and the tongue tablets on their smaller models. Until the early 1980's when they introduced the notched tablets with LEDs--at that time, even the smaller models (without LED tabs) used the notched tablets.</P>


      Congratulations on the 330--it's a very nice analog organ, but a VERY HEAVY beast!.</P>


      The tech manual indicates this could be run on as few as 2 channels. You'll probably be much happier, though, if you use as many channels as possible. The organ's output board has switches to mix channels as needed. For the 32' stop, I'd recommend the current model Rodgers SW4--it is reasonably priced for a subwoofer that can handle 16 Hz, and it's much better sized for a living room than the older refrigerator-sized cabinets. </P>


      I have a pdffiles of the tech manual, which I can post to a site &amp; send you the link to pick them up. Let me know if you are interested.</P>


      Toodles.</P>

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        Re: Rodgers 330 with tabs



        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello Toodles,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank you for all of your information. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I called Rodgers and the woman I spoke with could not tell me anything about the organ based on the serial number.By the way that serial number is 33549.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can't imagine that a production date is not coded into the number.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I may call again and try speaking to someone else.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">She sent me a .pdf file of the sales brochure on the 330 which confirms what you said about its availability with tabs,or mechanical or lighted draw knobs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It mentions there being 6 channels.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>From what you said about there being switches to mix the channels it sounds as though it would not be too difficult to set up to better fit a living room.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will definitely check into the SW4 woofer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At present I have a Miller &amp; Kreisel V90 amplified subwoofer used in my stereo system and have had thoughts of trying to use it for the pedal channel of the 330. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'd like to take you up on your offer to send the tech manual as a pdf file to a site where I can retrieve it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That would probably answer a lot of my questions. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>I think manuals for everything should be shared as much as possible and the web is the way to do that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A 330 owner's manual is available from Rodgers and I plan on getting one as well as any printed information related to the 330.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If they have tech/service manuals available they don't show them in the Rodgers store. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You are a wealth of information and I'm very happy to be talking to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you very much for sharing and being so helpful.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>


        <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best regards,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Vince<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

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          Re: Rodgers 330 with tabs



          Hi, Vince.</P>


          I don't know for sure, but I think Rodgers started a product series with a given serial number, and just incremented it by 1 for each organ built of that model--thus the date isn't really encoded in the serial number. I suggest you join the Rodgers Users Group on Frog Music. Mostly they talk about digitals, but some of the Rodgers folks monitor that site and frequently chime in with helpful info on the older analog models. </P>


          Generally, I don't recommend getting the owners manuals for the Rodgers analog organs. I've never found anything really useful in them. The tech manual usually tells you everything you need to know. Getting a tech manual from Rodgers is variable: sometimes they want you to buy from your dealer, sometimes they'll sell direct--maybe it's the phase of the moon?. They are still available as far as I know from the factory, and can run about $40. If you have a cooperative dealer, that's an easy way to buy it.</P>


          Best regards,</P>


          Toodles</P>

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