C-230 MIDI standard and features

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<DIV class=post>I would like to buy a small organ/harpsichord for home playing and are very interested in new Roland model C-230. After Internet exploration and reading Owner's manual I have some questions about this instrument. Unfortunately, a staff of Moscow Roland's representative can not answer for them, because of novelty of C-230. I will very appreciate for your help.

1) I intend to connect Roland's 20-note MIDI pedalboard PK-7 to C-230, but in C-230 Owner's manual only Roland's 13-note pedalboard PK-5A pedal is mentioned. Is PK-7 pedalboard compatible with C-230 via MIDI Out/In connections for convenient bass playing too?

2) Have C-230 a "MIDI Merge" feature, which allows to have MIDI messages received at MIDI IN be combined with MIDI messages produced by playing the C-230 itself and to transmit the resulting merged data from MIDI Out connector of C-230?

3) I can not find any information about MIDI standard (GM, GM2, GS, XG) for C-230 and PK-7 MIDI pedalboard. Can I use C-230 and PK-7 as usual General MIDI compatible keyboards (compatible with GM standard at least) to connect it with external GM-sound module?

(On page 34 of C-230 Owner's manual wrote: "The C-230 does not conform to the GS standard or General MIDI format. Songs not specifically preparated with/for C-230 may therefore use the wrong sound." However it's concern to received by C-230 MIDI messages and don't clear queastion about transmitted by C-230 MIDI messages.)

Very hope for your help.</DIV>

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Hi Sarich



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Sorry I can't help you, but I have exactly the same question as 1) above. Could you find out in the meantime if any pedalboard other then the PK-5 could be connected to the Roland C-230? Ideally for classical music even a 20- or 25- note pedalboard isn't enough, but they're better than a 13-note one! Thanks for giving an update on your own question!
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<FONT face="Times New Roman">&gt;1) I intend to connect Roland's 20-note <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place> pedalboard PK-7 to C-230, but in C-230 Owner's manual only Roland's &gt;13-note pedalboard PK-5A pedal is &gt;mentioned. Is PK-7 pedalboard compatible with C-230 via MIDI Out/In &gt;connections for convenient bass playing too?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face="Times New Roman">You can connect the PK-7 pedalboard, you have to choose the midi channel on the PK 7, the right midi channel is<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN># 14.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face="Times New Roman">When you connect the <st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place> cable on the C 230 automatically the pedal voices are play by PK 7.

&gt;2) Have C-<st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="230 a">230 a</st1:metricconverter> "MIDI Merge" feature, which allows to have MIDI messages received at MIDI IN be combined with &gt;MIDI messages produced by playing the &gt;C-230 itself and to transmit the resulting merged data from MIDI Out &gt;connector of C-230?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face="Times New Roman">No there is not the <st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place> merge. The FK 7 note doesn’t go out from C 230 MIDI Out <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>

&gt;3) I can not find any information about MIDI standard (GM, GM2, GS, XG) for C-230 and PK-7 MIDI pedalboard. &gt;Can I use C-230 and PK-7 as usual General &gt;MIDI compatible keyboards (compatible with GM standard at least) to &gt;connect it with external GM-sound module?

&gt;(On page 34 of C-230 Owner's manual wrote: "The C-230 does not conform to the GS standard or General <st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place> &gt;format. Songs not specifically preparated &gt;with/for C-230 may therefore use the wrong sound." However it's concern to &gt;received by C-230 MIDI messages and don't clear queastion about transmitted &gt;by C-230 MIDI messages.)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Yes, the C 230 does not conform to the GS standard or General <st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place> format. When you play one note on the C 230, the channel note are:# 1, #12, #13. When you change the voice on the C 230, the C 230 send the system exclusive message.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">
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<FONT face="Times New Roman">I hope that my information is enough .</FONT></P>
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Dear piero, do you know if C-230 can be connected with non-Roland pedalboards (I.e. a Viscount one, or the portable new
<h4>Nord Pedal Keys 27)??? THANKS!!!!
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Mrpigfan, I posed similar questions to Roland in my area, and they confirmed that any MIDI pedalboard can indeed be connected to the C-230. I found that Viscount MIDI pedalboards are generally very expensive compared to the price of the organ itself. Someone told me to try Content pedalboards as they are MIDI pedalboards, though I didn't find proper information on them on Content's website. It's good news if Nord is now selling their 27-key pedalboard independently, as it was supposed to come with the C-2 Combo organ. If it's a MIDI pedalboard as I expect, it should work on the C-230.

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Dear Piero, Clavia website report that the Nord Pedal 27 transmit on MIDI channel number 3..