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    I've been playing this Allen organ for a few weeks for a hymn sing at a retirement center. I was curious as to the model and approximate year. It doesn't have a locking top so I suspect it was not designed for church. That and it also doesn't have the huge volume needed for even a mid-sized sanctuary and there are no couplers. It does have an impressive stop list (albeit some of them seem to duplicate the other) and it has an AGO pedal board. It's a very nice organ all things considered.
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    Methinks I see a princess pedal board.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Menschenstimme View Post
      Methinks I see a princess pedal board.
      True enough.

      It is not an AGO console.

      It is likely a T12 or T15 or something like them.

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      • #4
        Almost certainly a T12A -- I had one.

        See the brochure I posted for it in the Brochures Gallery.

        Greg

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        • #5
          I must have missed something on the pedalboard. I counted 32 pedals altogether. What qualifies it as AGO?

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          • #6
            The princess pedalboard has all 32 notes. But the overall pedalboard is narrower than AGO and also shorter front to back. Also, the sharps are smaller.
            If you practice on a princess pedalboard, you may find yourself disoriented on an AGO pedalboard.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mak1457 View Post
              I must have missed something on the pedalboard. I counted 32 pedals altogether. What qualifies it as AGO?
              Doesn't it need to be curved/concave?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Menschenstimme View Post
                The princess pedalboard has all 32 notes. But the overall pedalboard is narrower than AGO and also shorter front to back. Also, the sharps are smaller.
                If you practice on a princess pedalboard, you may find yourself disoriented on an AGO pedalboard.
                No wonder I have issues. Oh well.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sfp1954 View Post
                  Doesn't it need to be curved/concave?
                  I think all 32-note pedal boards are "radiating" (as opposed to "straight") but not all are "concave" (as opposed to "flat"). I don't know if AGO requires them to be concave.

                  David

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sfp1954 View Post
                    Doesn't it need to be curved/concave?
                    Yes, the AGO standard calls for concave and radiating. Check the following link: http://zionorgan.com/pdf/agoconsole.pdf. Yes, while they're not all there, the general description can be found there.

                    I hope you find this helpful.

                    Michael
                    Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
                    • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
                    • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
                    • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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                    • #11
                      The cabinetry is the same but the 15's have more voices and this organ (and this stoprail looked very well voiced to me).
                      I think the 15 is one of the best old organs around. I had an S (with tubes) and foolishly let a dealer have it when I bought my first Hammond. Wasn't going to fool with old organs anymore -- there's one resolution long gone.

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