VPO Sample Set Matrix

[mashaffer]

I wasn't quite sure where to post this as none of the existing sub-fora seem to be exactly the right place but here goes.

I have a situation where it would be very helpful to be able to have identical (or nearly so) virtual organs for both Hauptwerk v.4 and either Grandorgue (HW v.1) or jOrgan. Just using Google et.al. you would be surprised at how difficult it is to find what sample sets might be available on multiple platforms. SO... why don't we try to put our heads together and come up with a matrix of organs and the platforms on which they are available?

mike

[arie v]

Mike,

I'm not sure why one would want a HW v.4 sample set also available on another platform. If one has Hauptwerk, why bother with other platforms, as they tend to sound like Hauptwerk did 7 or 8 years ago.

AV

[mashaffer]

Because even though the $1200 public license and the high powered computer ($$$) is justifiable for the church installation using the open source GO software on a much less expensive computer would be adequate for home use cutting the computer cost in half and eliminating the $250 for the basic license necessary to eliminate the chime in the HW version. Cost no object might be an entirely different matter. :D

mike

[Momboc]

You get what you pay for - and conversely if you don't pay you don't get. Milan Digital Audio (the producers of Hauptwerk) and the sample set providers are in business. So they don't release their software or samples for free - which is perfectly fair.

[mashaffer]

You get what you pay for - and conversely if you don't pay you don't get. Milan Digital Audio (the producers of Hauptwerk) and the sample set providers are in business. So they don't release their software or samples for free - which is perfectly fair.

Of course I agree and don't begrudge them their livelyhood at all, and I even understand their policy of charging a church, school or other institution double the price that they charge an individual. That being said the financial realities are that I need to be as thrifty as possible when it comes to the practice console at home. If it is not possible so be it but it seems worth investigating.

mike

[arie v]

Mike,

If the idea is something for free, just get GrandOrgue or jOrgan, get what ever sample sets are available for them, and be happy. Or even try the free Hauptwerk with a free Hauptwerk sample set.

But that generally does not bring happiness. What people want is the full Hauptwerk along with their favorite sample sets for free, or close to it. Sorry, but a successful business model does not allow that.

Have you thought of making your own sample set(s)? Then perhaps you may appreciate the effort one has to go through in order to get to a finished product.

AV

[mashaffer]

I don't think that I am getting my point across. I honestly didn't think this would be that controversial in a presumably neutral forum.

I do appreciate the work that goes into all of this and am not trying to get something for nothing. I simply want to put the money where it does the most good. I do intend to pay for the sample sets for both installations and to pay for the software for the church installation. If we want to have this professional quality software available in the future we have to be willing to pay for it, I understand this. However if I can do the initial R&D and the home setup using lower cost options it allows for more money to invest in the final installation for better hardware, more channels, more (and more costly) sample sets etc.

I want the best possible for the main install and am willing to do all I can to support those who make it possible but for the adjunct practice system I don't necessarily need the same level of quality, complexity, and capability and the savings there would make a better main system possible and sooner. I drive a 17 year old car and $200 is a major investment for me so I have to be wise about my spending.

If I didn't want to pay for anything I wouldn't have any need at all for sample sets on multiple platforms I would just do as you suggest and use the available open source solutions until I could afford the commercial option. The whole reason for having the sets available cross platform is to be able to get the project going and then be able to move to the commercial solution in an organized manner.

mike

[mashaffer]

In case there are any lurkers who might be interested I did find the Burea Church sample set which is available in both GO and HW3. Also it appears that HW1 sample sets can be imported into HW4 so that if one has a version 1 set they can apparently use it in version 4.

mike

[quantum]

A number of Lars Palo's GO sets are now available for jOrgan: Burea, Burea Funeral Chapel, Kalvtrask, and Pitea School.