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    <font face="Arial">Can anyone point to a source for finding out more about the early Allen organs, like stoplists, pistons, any other notable features, etc? I have the excellent PDF from http://www.lizardweb.com/organ/E-organ_list_v.4_(DB)1.pdf but I was wondering what other sources people used to find more specific information on various organs. Immediately, I am looking for the stoplist for an Allen TC-3.

    Thanks,

    Matthew
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    Matthew,</P>


    The Allen TC models were unified instruments, usually with 2 ranks, a Diapason and a Flute. I say usually because I think a few of the later models had more, like a string or a reed, but don't quote me on it. Because they were so highly unified, the TC models didn't have (or need) couplers.</P>


    I have an Allen TC-15, and although it's not the TC-3 like you're inquiring about, I would be willing to bet that they are very similar. I can send you a stoplist and other details if you're interested...</P>

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      Re: Details of early Allen organs

      Matthew,



      There is a TC 3 on ebay right now, with a clear photograph of the stops
      on the Pedal and Swell. Since the Great is not visible here are
      the stops:



      Flutes at 16', 8', 4', 2 2/3', 2'

      Diapasons at 8', 4', 2

      Clarinet at 8' (drawing Flutes at 8', 2 2/3', and 1 3/5')



      The generals were:



      Diapasons become Viola

      Diapasons become Dulciana

      Flute Tremolo

      Diapason Tremolo



      They had fixed combination pistons with indicator lights, plus a crescendo pedal.



      There were two generators: sine wave flute with 96 oscillators and diapason with 72 oscillators.



      The Pedal Bourdon 16' actuated a bass boost on the flutes.



      The swell had two additional stops: Geigen Diapason 8', Oboe 8',
      Trumpet 8' that used extra filters on the flute. They clicked on
      the Flute 8' relay but were fed through the diapason audio
      channel. The oboe was pretty decent, but had a tendency to fade
      in and out due to some mysterious electrical problem--at least on the
      one I played eons ago.



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        <font face="Arial">Thanks for the additional info!

        Matthew
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          Re: Details of early Allen organs

          I've got an old TC3. I don't know whether mine is different as it is the UK model. I would add that there are three 'blind' pistons, and a 'cancel' (ie hand registration) piston. My organ has a separate speaker cabinet which contains the mains transformer, amplifier and all the speakers, including the rotating sound system with it's motor. This has not worked o my organ for several years. The organ is in good playable condition and is used regularly for my practice.

          Hope this is useful.

          Regards,

          Nigel

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            My organ has a separate speaker cabinet which contains the mains transformer, amplifier and all the speakers, including the rotating sound system with it's motor. This has not worked o my organ for several years.</P>


            One of mine doesnt work either - the motor itself was removed! </P>

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              I've got the motor, but I bypassed it by pluggiing the cable directly into the amplifier stage after it seemed to be buzzing but not working. I keep meaning to try to get it repaired. Allen told me that they now make an electronic system which gives the same effect. They fit this in reconditioned units. I think it costs around GBP 200. I've not got round to doing anything about it, but it may be worthwhile in the future, especially if a reverb is available too. At the moment, I just use the organ for practiced, so I'm not too bothered about the lack of the motor.

              Regards,

              Nigel

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                [quote user="matthewlefflercomputer"]<FONT face=Arial>Can anyone point to a source for finding out more about the early Allen organs, like stoplists, pistons, any other notable features, etc? I have the excellent PDF from http://www.lizardweb.com/organ/E-organ_list_v.4_(DB)1.pdf but I was wondering what other sources people used to find more specific information on various organs. Immediately, I am looking for the stoplist for an Allen TC-3.

                Thanks,

                Matthew
                </FONT>[/quote]</P>


                There's an Allen organ on Ebay right now that is in your home town. It is probably an analog, but it seems to come with a gyro. For $0.99, it doesn't seem too bad. If it doesn't have more than one set of tone generators, it would be possible to have a techie add a rank of oscillators, to do the diapason stops.</P>


                Bill</P>


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                  <font face="Arial">Hi Bill,

                  Sorry if I am being dense but I don't find it. Can you send a link?

                  Matthew
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                    [quote user="matthewlefflercomputer"]<FONT face=Arial>Hi Bill,

                    Sorry if I am being dense but I don't find it. Can you send a link?

                    Matthew
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                    </P>


                    They mispelled "organ" in the ad. I emailed you separately with it. If you still don't find it, let me know.</P>

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