Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
Well I did on my digital organ which dates back to the early 90's. When I put my headphones, the quality of the sound seemed much better than the speakers.</P>
So what I did was to plug in my computer speakers which are good quality and has a subwoofer and connected it to the headphone socket and I could not believe how much better the organ sounded. The subwoofer really has given the bass so much more gravitas. With the reverberation on it sounded even better.</P>
Try it! You need good computer speakers preferably with a sub-woofer.</P>
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
You need the speaker cabinet on my ancient analogue Allen! 2 x 16" fixed speakers at the bottom and 4 x 8" on the rotating unit (which needs a new motor!). I've got to keep it turned down to minumum in the house, but would love to open it up properly some time. I remember it used to fill a large church before I got it.
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
Hi Choirmaster,
Once the novelty of the instrument wears off, it is usually the quality of the sound eminating from the internal speakers that causes people to sour somewhat on their instrument. Most instruments with internal speakers have rather poor internal speakers, mounted in the wrong place.
Sometimes the best thing to do, is disconnect the internal speakers, and hook the speaker lines to better speakers.
Also, if the organ has a signal level out in left/right configuration, you could hook it up to a good stereo, as long as the speakers can put out some bass.
I am surprised that computer type speakers can do the job. Usually they have problems dealing with simple music, let alone try to reproduce organ tone sufficiently.
Is your organ at all voiceable? Usually some re-balancing among voices, and tapering can do wonders to the overall sound.
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
Oh right, I can just easily install a pipe organ in my bijoux lil ole flat?!</P>
The subwoofer gives great bass. No my organ isnt revoicable unfortunately. Because I am using the speakers on the organ, I have no speakers for the computers. I am going to get one of those multimedia surround sound systems and try that on the organ, if it is no better I will use on my computer.</P>
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
[quote user="FrenchHorn8"]get pipes and you won't have to worry about speakers anymore :-D[/quote]</P>
Right! Then you will only have to worry about all the money spent in upkeep. Also anger from neighbors, because the pipes are likely to be unenclosed. Of course the home pipe organ is likely to be three ranks at most, so there is also the boredom factor, after the initial thrill of hearing air pushed around the room in the "correct" manner.</P>
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
[quote user="radagast"]
Right! Then you will only have to worry about all the money spent in upkeep. Also anger from neighbors, because the pipes are likely to be unenclosed. Of course the home pipe organ is likely to be three ranks at most, so there is also the boredom factor, after the initial thrill of hearing air pushed around the room in the "correct" manner.</P>
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What money spent in upkeep? Also, my pipes are unenclosed AND they are in a condo with the next door neighbors attached! They can't hear a thing. If you get bored, just add more ranks. A couple months ago, I had 2 manuals and 4 ranks. Now I'm up to 3 manuals and about 15 ranks! I'm never bored.
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
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I am surprised that computer type speakers can do the job. Usually they have problems dealing with simple music, let alone try to reproduce organ tone sufficiently.
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Not all computer speakers are the lame systems that come with retail computers.
I run a set of the Klipsch ProMedia line, they're THX certified desktop computer speakers. I find the sound reproduction more than acceptable and the possible volume output many times what I could ever actually use.
My only gripe is that the bass gets a little muffled and buzzy on the sub under extreme circumstances (I have a couple of recordings of Franck's Prelude, Fugue, and Variation that produce this effect in the lower part of the pedal compass), but certainly performs admirably under most circumstances.
Definitely worth investigation if you're sitting with "computer speakers" that struggle to make simple music recognizable, much less pleasant to listen to.
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
[quote user="FrenchHorn8"]
Right! Then you will only have to worry about all the money spent in upkeep. Also anger from neighbors, because the pipes are likely to be unenclosed. Of course the home pipe organ is likely to be three ranks at most, so there is also the boredom factor, after the initial thrill of hearing air pushed around the room in the "correct" manner.</P>
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What money spent in upkeep? [/quote]</P>
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All pipe organs will need maintenance sooner or later.</P>
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
It's true that the internal speakers are often so so in quality. Although I must say I was surprised by a home installation of an Allen C6 I once played...that only had internal speakers. It was quite good at filling a living room with a high ceiling. I think some thought had been put into the voicing of that one. Another home installation of a C6 I've played was less satisfying. Neither sounded good with a super thick reverb that Allen seems to pre-program. The lightest reverb setting I could find seemed like the best.
The low and mid range speakers on my Allen ADC-1140 are rather "woolly" sounding, probably partly because they are getting old. Reconing them would be a good idea. In its current configuration I use the internal speakers to their best advantage: the channel 1 that was meant to support the bass-containing stops acts as a woofer for the whole audio system using the effects send of a mixer. The EQ on the mixer is set to try to keep mid and high frequencies off that channel (it's actually an insert on its own buss) Channel 2 supports the lesser of the 2 great-pedal channels - that has the Rohrflote 8, Octave 4, Mixtur IV and Waldflote 2. The organ's other 5 channels are on a pair of Tannoy Dual Concentric active monitors across the room. So a diapason chorus has the Mixtur IV and Octav 4 coming out down by the knees, and the 8' Principal and 2' Superoctave stops with interpolated digital chiff coming out of the very high resolution Tannoys and sounding very good on certain notes. The less accurate Allen amps and speakers suit the Mixtur IV because it's a bit screechy - they tone it down compared to the Tannoys. Anyhow this is in a large 22X24 living room with wood floors. This arrangement gives a really excellent sense of ensemble.
Quick update (7/8/06): as a little project last night I connected an NAD amp and two more Tannoy speakers I have (non DC). WOW. Again, quite a leap in the quality of the ensemble. It was irresistable after listening to it for 5 minutes. There's no going back. The organ now _almost_ has one channel for every 6 that it can output. This is the way to go...give every output channel you've got a speaker!
Re: Hate the sound coming out between your knees on your home digital organ?
[quote user="FrenchHorn8"][quote user="radagast"]
Right! Then you will only have to worry about all the money spent in upkeep. Also anger from neighbors, because the pipes are likely to be unenclosed. Of course the home pipe organ is likely to be three ranks at most, so there is also the boredom factor, after the initial thrill of hearing air pushed around the room in the "correct" manner.</P>
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What money spent in upkeep? Also, my pipes are unenclosed AND they are in a condo with the next door neighbors attached! They can't hear a thing. If you get bored, just add more ranks. A couple months ago, I had 2 manuals and 4 ranks. Now I'm up to 3 manuals and about 15 ranks! I'm never bored.
Just my opinion...[/quote]
reference boredom.. never! lol
I'm up to over 40 (I've not counted lately) speaking stops over 2 manuals and pedal on my Reuter 5 rank unit pipe organ...
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