Allen 603dk questions

[Joeybird1977]

I'm a newbie to the forum and hope you can help. I have been offered an Allen 603dk if I want it. Problem is it is without the amps and speakers. It is my understanding that the 4 outputs aren't normal line level, so what would it take to hook this up to a mixer to work correctly. This is my first dealing with an Allen or a digital system in general. I rebuilt my m3 myself replacing entire pedal board and fixing problems on tone generator so this isn't my first attempt at working on one. Just not sure what to do to check his out and see if it is worth dealing with. Any help would be greatly appreciated

[toodles]

The 603 is one of the largest 2-manual organs Allen built. I don't think it would be very hard to bring the levels up to line-level. Harrison Labs offers some mixers that should be able to do this. http://harrisonorganworks.com/index_files/Page784.htm Looks like between $200 and $300 depending upon the function.

Seems like it's worth doing to me.

In general, if an Allen console and mechanical parts are very solid and worth some investment.

[Joeybird1977]

Thanks. I wasn't aware that company existed. Like I said this is the first time I've dealt with an organ without internal speakers (sheltered life I know). I played a Hammond m100 for 20 years and own an m3 but have changed churches and am now playing an Allen. This is actually the old church organ that was replaced within the last 3-4 years. I have a mixer already and was hoping to find some way to use it since it is already in my office. Is there a way to modify the outputs (resistors?) to bring them up to line level so they will work on a standard mixer?

[toodles]

If your mixer permits microphone level inputs, it might work. Make sure you do NOT enable a phantom power supply if you do this (on the mixer). It might be a little noisy. I used a a mic mixer on a 603 for reverb, and mostly it worked OK, but one channel was always noisy for some reason. Probably a flaw in the mixer.

There is no way to increase the output of the organ except to use some sort of a preamp.

[Joeybird1977]

So they are lowZ? How would you wire it balanced?

[Hamman]

Wouldn't need to. Unbalanced is fine. Just keep the input wires away from transformers/ walwarts

[Joeybird1977]

Would it benefit to find a ground on the organ and wire it to the xlr jacks? I'm just trying to figure this out before I start trying to make it work. Thankfully it is in storage where I can work on it and try to make this work before I have to find a crew of about 15 people to try to move it to my house lol