Walker TP 3 speakers

[gebohmusic]

Hello,

Do any of you out there use Walker TP 3 speakers as your "main" speakers?

I realize that one would need a subwoofer with these.

I am trying to find the best solution (with limited budget) for external speakers for my Galanti Praeludium organ with the Ahlborn 201 and Romantic modules.

Thanks!!

[toodles]

At one time I had a Rodgers 770 with TP3's as the main with a Rodgers SW4. I was very pleased with the performance. While you might want better performing speakers for your digital setup, I think these would be worth trying.

[michaelhoddy]

The TP3's are 2 of Walker's ubiquitous 6x9" drivers and a dome tweeter. They used this type of combination all the time as the high/mid compliment of many cabinets. There was even a manual stops cabinet called the TB6 that was basically 2 TP3's in the same box. We used it for a while for manual divisions that didn't have flue 16's (reed 16's are fine), and it worked plenty well.

We used TP3's as "echo" speakers in big installations, and presence projectors in smaller ones in concert with the internal speakers. We also used them as the high frequency component with big pedal subwoofers, crossed over.

So yes, as long as you have a decent subwoofer and a high-pass filter inline on the TP3's, you'll be fine.

[gebohmusic]

Thank you fellows for your input.

I am honestly confused at this point what to do.

I want a good sound setup --- but I do not want to break the bank to get it.

The Galanti Praeludium sounds good by itself --- and the Ahlborn modules do not sound terrible through the organ self contained speakers --- but I do think it could sound better with the Ahlborn and the Rodgers modules.

My closest Allen dealer quoted me a price of $375 each for Allen HC14s and $300 each for Allen HC 15's.

The Allen dealer told me he had a pair of speakers come in with a load of used organs. He said he would take $300 for the pair if I picked them up. I have attached pictures of them. Take a look at them and see what you think.

I have tried to get some info. out of him on the speakers --- but I guess since he is not making a big sale off of me --- he hasn't replied much.

The Walker TP3's were from someone online and are $135 each plus shipping.

I found a pair of Allen HC 12's online that the guy says they replaced the 15" driver with new --- better 15" drivers. His price for the pair of Allen HC 12's is $225 each with the shipping somehow included in the price.

I know that I will have to get a sub for '32 pedal stops from the modules --- but of the above what would you guys recommend?

I'm going to post this as a new thread as well.

Thanks a bunch!!!
GH

The TP3's are 2 of Walker's ubiquitous 6x9" drivers and a dome tweeter. They used this type of combination all the time as the high/mid compliment of many cabinets. There was even a manual stops cabinet called the TB6 that was basically 2 TP3's in the same box. We used it for a while for manual divisions that didn't have flue 16's (reed 16's are fine), and it worked plenty well.

We used TP3's as "echo" speakers in big installations, and presence projectors in smaller ones in concert with the internal speakers. We also used them as the high frequency component with big pedal subwoofers, crossed over.

So yes, as long as you have a decent subwoofer and a high-pass filter inline on the TP3's, you'll be fine.

[toodles]

You will spend as much just to get the bottom octave of the 32' stop as it costs to do everything else--or something akin to that. You need to evaluate how much money you want to spend just for the 32' stop. The HC-12's are a good way to get a value-priced 32' speaker system, though it will not overwhelm you, it does provide some response in the bottom octave.

I personally think it is not worth a lot of money to try to better the TP3s. But the prices your Allen dealer is quoting for the HC14/15 speaker is a real bargain. The HC14/15's though, are much larger than the TP3s, so do you have the space? The TP3's, also, do need some sort of a woofer or subwoofer since they won't even cover the bottom octave of the 16's stops.

I would not consider the Community speakers unless you can audition them with your equipment and are happy with the sound.

So I would say these are your considerations:

1. What level of performance do I need in the bottom octave of the 32' stop? None? Moderate? Solid?

2. Will these speakers supplement existing speakers or replace them?

3. How much space do I want to devote to speakers?

4. If I go with the TP3's, what will I use for a woofer/subwoofer?

5. What's my overall budget?

So the options seem to be:

TP3's plus woofer/subwoofer (smallest physical pacakage size)

HC-14/15's alone (if 32' low octave is unimportant) (mid-size, and same as HC-12's alone)

HC-14/15's with a subwoofer (if 32' low octave is very important) (largest physical size)

HC-12's alone (if some gentle 32' low octave is good enough) (mid-size)

HC-12's with a subwoofer (largest physical size, same as HC-14/15's; the only advantage over HC-14/15's is the cost)

Lots to consider.

[arie v]

Hi,

Regarding external speakers for the Praeludium I, just a bit of caution here. The internal speakers on thePI, are 12" full range drivers. Really pretty poor excuse for organ speakers, as they do not put out much bass, or treble. Now, the organ was voiced at the factory with these speakers in mind. If you put a set of speakers on that produce more bass and treble, you will find the organ to be unbearably loud at the top end. The organ is not user voiceable, unless you go and swap resistors on the tone boards.

So my bit of advice is keep the organ on the internals, and the rest on a separate system.

Also, should mention, that the Walker speakers are designed to work in pairs, with one speaker vertically loaded, the second one horizontal, but speaking away from the listener, in other words, the sound should be reflected before it is heard.

AV

PS I should mention, if you had a PIi, that is quite a different organ, as the speaker system is much better, and it works better both from internals as well as externals. The internal system is not designed to do 32' stop well though.