Which Allen ADC series organs had built-n speakers?

[Dewey643]

I'd like to get an idea which Allen ADC series organs had built-in speakers(self contained audio)? I know some ADC organs had the "blind" capture system,..not really what I would want,..but could live with if price was right! How did they sound,etc? I read on another thread that the MDC series organs should be avoided as they don't have much to offer in terms of couplers,etc.

[organman95]

The one's that come to mind are 220/221/222, 420, 520, 720

[toodles]

The ADC-1100 through ADC-3160 properly considered MADC models had, through increasing model numbers, self-contained speakers, divided expression, full capture combination action, crescendo pedal, tutti pistons, and external speakers. Here's a run down of the models with self contained speakers (in addition to the 3-digit models organman95 mentioned):

MADC-2 Models

ADC-1100: self-contained speakers, blind programmable pistons, presence projector speakers on stop board
ADC-1110: as above but double memory capture moving combination action

MADC-3 Models
Slightly different stop list including: Quintaten 16 on Swell, duplexed to Pedal and Great (this replaced the Lieblich Gedackt 16 on MADC-2 models, which was in the Swell division, but only available as duplexed stops on the Pedal and Great); Mixture III on Swell (replaced Sifflote 1 on Swell); adds Romantic Tuning (normally off on original MADC-3 models, normally on on A revision models). Note that with these models presence projectors were no longer provided internal to the organ.

ADC-1130: Self-contained, blind programmable presets, single expression.
ADC-1140: Same as ADC-1130 but with dual memory moving combination action with 7 general pistons only.
ADC-1160: Same as ADC-1140, but double memory moving combination action with divisional and general pistons (6 and 10 respectively).

Of these, obviously the ADC-1160 or 1160A would be the most organ in this package.

[samibe]

How about standard ADC organs?

My ADC-4500 has internal speakers. It also has the double memory capture moving combination action.
The following probably have internal speakers, though I don't know for sure.
ADC-4600
ADC-3500
ADC-1000
ADC-1010

[Menschenstimme]

ADC-1110 - Very nice little organ with internal speakers.
The one I know of has a card reader.

[toodles]

How about standard ADC organs?

My ADC-4500 has internal speakers. It also has the double memory capture moving combination action.
The following probably have internal speakers, though I don't know for sure.
ADC-4600
ADC-3500
ADC-1000
ADC-1010

The first two you list are theatre organs, and since this was posted in the "Classical & Church Electronic Organs" sections, I was considering the classical models only. As to the ADC-1000 and 1010, I don't have the tech info on those models.

Personally, I don't consider the theatre models as suitable for classical music, even if they have classical second voicing--the lack of classical trems on the ADC and early MDS models makes them a bit crippled for classical work. Theatre trems just don't cut it for classical work.

[Dewey643]

The ADC-1100 through ADC-3160 properly considered MADC models had, through increasing model numbers, self-contained speakers, divided expression, full capture combination action, crescendo pedal, tutti pistons, and external speakers. Here's a run down of the models with self contained speakers (in addition to the 3-digit models organman95 mentioned):

MADC-2 Models

ADC-1100: self-contained speakers, blind programmable pistons, presence projector speakers on stop board
ADC-1110: as above but double memory capture moving combination action

MADC-3 Models
Slightly different stop list including: Quintaten 16 on Swell, duplexed to Pedal and Great (this replaced the Lieblich Gedackt 16 on MADC-2 models, which was in the Swell division, but only available as duplexed stops on the Pedal and Great); Mixture III on Swell (replaced Sifflote 1 on Swell); adds Romantic Tuning (normally off on original MADC-3 models, normally on on A revision models). Note that with these models presence projectors were no longer provided internal to the organ.

ADC-1130: Self-contained, blind programmable presets, single expression.
ADC-1140: Same as ADC-1130 but with dual memory moving combination action with 7 general pistons only.
ADC-1160: Same as ADC-1140, but double memory moving combination action with divisional and general pistons (6 and 10 respectively).

Of these, obviously the ADC-1160 or 1160A would be the most organ in this package.

ADC-1140 would have my vote since it has moving capture/combination action,..I wouldn't want the blind capture system! ADC-1110 would also work. Think I'll focus on the ADC series organs,..the ones you mention will be good candidates. I'm in no rush,..but NOW I know what I have in mind. I have read on here the ADC models(probably certain ones) sound really good!

[toodles]

Don't discount the ADC-1160 or ADC-1160A--same as the 1140 but with more pistons.

[organman95]

The ADC-1100 through ADC-3160 properly considered MADC models had, through increasing model numbers, self-contained speakers, divided expression, full capture combination action, crescendo pedal, tutti pistons, and external speakers. Here's a run down of the models with self contained speakers (in addition to the 3-digit models organman95 mentioned):

MADC-2 Models

ADC-1100: self-contained speakers, blind programmable pistons, presence projector speakers on stop board
ADC-1110: as above but double memory capture moving combination action

MADC-3 Models
Slightly different stop list including: Quintaten 16 on Swell, duplexed to Pedal and Great (this replaced the Lieblich Gedackt 16 on MADC-2 models, which was in the Swell division, but only available as duplexed stops on the Pedal and Great); Mixture III on Swell (replaced Sifflote 1 on Swell); adds Romantic Tuning (normally off on original MADC-3 models, normally on on A revision models). Note that with these models presence projectors were no longer provided internal to the organ.

ADC-1130: Self-contained, blind programmable presets, single expression.
ADC-1140: Same as ADC-1130 but with dual memory moving combination action with 7 general pistons only.
ADC-1160: Same as ADC-1140, but double memory moving combination action with divisional and general pistons (6 and 10 respectively).

Of these, obviously the ADC-1160 or 1160A would be the most organ in this package.

Had not seen an 1100 series instrument, didn't know those have self-contained audio. Good to know :)