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    Hello,

    I have an Allen (M)ADC 3100 organ with four channels of audio. I have two HC 14 speakers and two HC 15 speakers.

    The organ is in a bedroom at my house.

    I have the option to put two speakers to the left of the organ console -- one speaker laying down flat on it's side -- and placing another speaker standing upright on top of it.

    On the right side of the organ -- I have room only for one speaker standing upright.

    The fourth speaker will have to go across the room -- facing the console.

    I tried this configuration with all speakers pointing to the walls -- not pointing out into the room. The speaker on the left that stands on top of the speaker laying down -- I had it angled and pointed to the corner.

    Is this the best placement?

    I do not think having all speakers behind me directed at the organ console will be ideal......??

    If my mentioned configuration sounds acceptable --- would it make a difference what channels go to what speakers? Especially, the speaker across the room -- maybe put the channel with most of the bass on that speaker?

    I have read on the form about speaker placement -- but each situation is different and I wanted to get some input.

    Thanks!
    Geoffrey
    Rodgers W5000 --- home (currently at church)
    Rodgers MX200 module --- home (currently at church)
    Kawai UST7 studio piano --- home

  • #2
    Hello. If your bedroom is very small. clamp then high on the corners of the walls.

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    • #3
      There are some very general ideas, but in the end it’s all about ‘try and see’. I’ve had different audio setups and even just with different speakers I preferred different placements.

      Maybe you could also put all four speakers behind you facing out toward the side walls?
      Viscount C400 3-manual
      8 channels + 2 reverb channels (w/ Lexicon MX200)
      Klipsch RSX-3 speakers and Klipsch Ultra 5.1 subwoofers

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      • #4
        In general I've had the best luck with the speakers facing away from me as I sit on the bench, or all facing up at the ceiling. In any case, speakers aimed right at your ears will probably prove to be unpleasant sounding.

        If you ever get the chance to swap speakers, you might exchange one of the pairs for a pair of HC-13 cabinets, which are identical to the HC-15 except that they have a 12" woofer instead of a 15" and therefore need a much smaller box. These are perfectly fine for use with the two swell channels, since the swell channels don't need to handle any heavy bass. The box is so small and lightweight you might be able to place a pair of them right on top of the console facing up at the ceiling.
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        • #5
          Hi Geoffrey,

          I like the speakers high in the room so that they speak over your head. If ceiling height will not allow that then other choices could be: A stack of three speakers stacked horizontally on the left side and one speaker on the right. Or, All speakers directly behind the bench facing away from the organ. Or, two speakers to the left of the bench and two to the right of the bench facing away from the organ.
          Sam

          Allen ADC5400, 1910 Chickering QuarterGrand
          Past---Allen ADC4000, Galanti Praeludium II, Yamaha Clavinova, Hammond A102, W.W. Putnam Reed Organ

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gebohmusic View Post
            I have the option to put two speakers to the left of the organ console -- one speaker laying down flat on it's side -- and placing another speaker standing upright on top of it.

            On the right side of the organ -- I have room only for one speaker standing upright.

            The fourth speaker will have to go across the room -- facing the console.

            I tried this configuration with all speakers pointing to the walls -- not pointing out into the room. The speaker on the left that stands on top of the speaker laying down -- I had it angled and pointed to the corner.
            [snip]
            I have read on the form about speaker placement -- but each situation is different and I wanted to get some input.
            Geoffrey,

            It sounds like you are either "bedroom poor" or "organ rich!" Either way, there are a few general rules:
            • Try reflected sound vs. direct sound from the speakers
            • Face them away from you so the sound blends elsewhere and then reaches your ear
            • As already mentioned a couple of times, mounted high on the wall is generally best
            • Alternately, you can use them in the decor of the room.

            Let me explain more about the last bullet. I was going to find a picture where one of our members (about a decade ago) purchased an organ and didn't have room for all the speakers in the space. Therefore, he placed the speakers so they became bookshelves (hard to describe, easy to understand if you can see the photo I can't find!:embarrassed:).

            Another option a member used in a room like that was to purchase some bookshelf right-angle supports, and placed the speakers on top of those, speaking across the top of the room. Unless you're Michael Jordan, they should be far enough above your head so you don't have to duck--or you could place them in a corner--2 facing across the room, and 2 facing the length of the room. That way, the sound blends.

            These are just some options. I apologize for not being able to find the photos, but if one of the other older members remembers, perhaps they can find the pictures for you. Hope this is helpful.

            Michael
            Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
            • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
            • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
            • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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