Is this a scam?

[radagast]

There is an EBay auction for an Allen G450 with no reserve, starting at $18,000 with a buy it now price of $24,000. I’m thinking of reporting it to Ebay as a possible fraud.

[Moller Artiste]

There is an EBay auction for an Allen G450 with no reserve, starting at $18,000 with a buy it now price of $24,000. I’m thinking of reporting it to Ebay as a possible fraud.

The Allen Organ is not a G450. This is also being discussed at "On The Internet." Here is the link:

https://organforum.com/forums/showth...450-not-a-G450

Allen

[Al Offt]

There is an EBay auction for an Allen G450 with no reserve, starting at $18,000 with a buy it now price of $24,000. I’m thinking of reporting it to Ebay as a possible fraud.

When I read this post, I thought the question was whether the $18000 price was too much for an Allen G450. Not sure what part of the post the OP thinks is fraud.

Edit: I understand now after reading the previous post submitted while I was typing.

[radagast]

How is this a fraud? The buy it now price is exactly that buy it now and for this price.

The purpose of having a lower starting price is to initiate bids below the minimum $24,000 required by the seller.

No issues here - move along please!

A G450 brand new would be closer to $100,000. I’ve notified Ebay in the past about auctions that turned out to be frauds, because the asking price was too good to be true, for various keyboards that I was familiar with. In those cases, someone hijacked someone else’s Ebay account. So yes I had very good reason to be suspicious. After reading the other post, it’s obvious this organ is not a G450, but not even any Allen G series organ.

When I read this post, I thought the question was whether the $18000 price was too much for an Allen G450. Not sure what part of the post the OP thinks is fraud.

Edit: I understand now after reading the previous post submitted while I was typing.

Not too much, WAY too little.

[KC9UDX]

Does eBay care? I've never heard of eBay reacting in any way to such listings.

[toodles]

Yes, they do care. If an auction is reported and it turns out to be fraudulent, they pull the ad. They likely ban offenders who repeat.

[rjsilva]

The listing I see says R380 in the title and G450 in the description.

[radagast]

The listing I see says R380 in the title and G450 in the description.

I contacted the seller and told him, or her, that the organ in the picture was, in addition to not being a G450, also not any model in the “G” series. Perhaps they changed it after it was pointed out to them.

[Horseshoe_or]

I suggested to the seller that he/she take a picture of the plaque with the model and serial number (usually found by lifting the lid) and post it.