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Well,...I feel that I have finally determined what my organ budget is going to be,and how large of an organ that will allow. $5k is the most I can go,..and since I have decided I want Allen,...and ONLY Allen,...ADC series is as new as I will be able to go,...MAYBE lower line MDS series like MDS-6 if I get really lucky,...but DEFINITELY ADC series for sure. Brand spanking new organs out of the question! All that being said,...which ADC model? Well,...I'd like an ADC-1140,...or 1160 with internal audio. I will not buy off ebay,...I PREFER to go with a dealer/rep in order for better service,and a warranty,...even if it's only a one to two year warranty,...that is better than nothing. ADC-2140 with external audio(two speakers max is all I'd have room for)may also be a possible candidate. Not quite ready to buy just yet,...need to get a vehicle I don't need anymore sold first! I want moving capture on my organ,...I don't want the "blind capture" system!
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$5k should get you plenty of good options if you’re willing to dig around a little. I got my full cage ADC-5000 off Craigslist, pristine condition, extraordinarily well-maintained with drawknobs and the Brass Choir TT-4 option, along with 14 HC14 speaker cabinets, for $4k, and there are some here that would argue that was too much. -
Don't dismiss the ADC-2160 and ADC-3160--both are the same size console as the ADC-1140 with expanded combination action, and both can run in a 2-channel or 4-channel mode with external speakers. Little bit larger stoplist, if I recall correctly if only by 1 or 2 stops.Comment
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If you can get to western Arkansas, I'll bet jbird604 could fix you up with something.
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Right now there is an Allen ADC6000-DKC Digital Organ with MIDI, Card Reader and 16 Speaker Cabinets on Ebay for $5,000. If I didn't already have two organs, it would be moving into my music room shortly.Mike
My home organ is a Theatre III with an MDS II MIDI Expander.
I also have an MDC 10 Theatre spinet.Comment
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2 channel external audio would be PLENTY for my small home if I were to find any one of those two organs you mentioned,...4 channels would blow the roof and windows out! My living room has thick carpet,so that will dampen the acoustics a bit!Originally posted by toodles View Post
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Can you provide photos of these organs?Originally posted by toodles View PostLate 1980's Rodgers Essex 640Comment
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Just so you know, quantity of independent audio channels is not about volume, it’s about producing improved sound via separation of stops. I use 11 channels (9 from organ and 2 reverb channels) because it makes my organ sound better. It’s not any louder than if I used 2.Originally posted by Dewey643 View PostViscount C400 3-manual
8 channels + 2 reverb channels (w/ Lexicon MX200)
Klipsch RSX-3 speakers and Klipsch Ultra 5.1 subwoofersComment
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I would love to have the drawknob version of that organ as well, but since I already have the stoptab version, it isn't worth the trouble.Originally posted by m&m's View Post
The organ can, indeed, be toned down to work in a home, however, it is 7 channels (minimum) unless you add sub bass crossover. If you use the standard HC-12/HC-14/HC-15 speakers, each speaker is approximately 1.5' square by 3' tall. If you lay them on their sides, you can fit 4 speakers stacked on their sides under a standard 8' ceiling with a bit of room left over. They take less space than a chair when stacked that way.
Hope you find a good organ to use soon! Happy hunting.
Michael
P.S. A much larger space will allow the sounds to blend better, however, that is the case with any size organ you purchase.Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:- MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
- Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
- 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos
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Isn't the ADC-6000 console one of the not-through-the-average-doorway types?
--- TomRodgers 660 with additional analog rack sets (practice), 36D/C in digital conversion, Yamaha CVP-107Comment
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Tom,Originally posted by twnelson View Post
That's correct. It's one of the C-console organs–one of the largest they made. One of my organs has that console (ADC-8000), and it is around 40" deep w/o pedals. It is approximately 72" wide, and about 56" high. Big console, but if you have the sliding doors (or double doors) for it.;-)
MichaelWay too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:- MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
- Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
- 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos
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ADC-3160 photo http://www.heritagechurchorgan.com/w...2-50-30-PM.jpg here.
The ADC-2160 is the same console, but has stop tabs.Comment
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That 3160 looks even more enticing,...what I mean is,...I'm liking the drawknobs over the stop tabs of the 2160,...but I'd be happy with either one! How many channels can these two organs run on again?Originally posted by toodles View Post
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That would be one heck of a practice organ! Drawknobs,toe studs,card reader! MERCY!Originally posted by toodles View PostLate 1980's Rodgers Essex 640Comment
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This photo will probably go by the wayside eventually: https://gpaulmusic.com/wp-content/up.../ADC2160-2.jpg.Originally posted by Dewey643 View Post
Enjoy!
MichaelWay too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:- MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
- Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
- 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos
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Internally these are 6 channel organs: 2 for swell, 2 for Great & Pedal, 2 for alterable voices. In all of this group of organs except the 3160 they are internally mixed to 2 channels, for the 3160 they are mixed to 4 channels. The 3160 can be converted to 2 channel operation easily; the others can be converted to 4 channels but that requires an additional 2 channels of amplification.
The conversion of the 3160 to 2 channels just involves changing some switches on the mixer board.Last edited by toodles; 12-31-2018, 10:07 AM.Comment
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