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    I play a model 300 in a church, the same organ that was installed in 1973. I find that the tone is thin and shrill, almost like playing a reed organ. Is there anything that can be done to give the sound some depth?

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    I think there is probably something wrong with the instrument--it should not be thin and shrill.

    David

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    • #3
      Check the speakers for foam rot. Make sure the audio is properly hooked up. Have a tech voice the instrument and check for any issues.
      Sam
      Home: Allen ADC-4500 Church: Allen MDS-5
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      • #4
        I agree with David. I played a 350 for about six years and mine always sounded good. That is, until the entire church burned to the ground after our Christmas Eve service several years ago. Thankfully, the church and contents were heavily insured. BTW the fire was not started by the organ.
        Lloyd

        Happily retired organist/pianist from the Church of the Brethren...Allen ADC-4300-DK.
        Home...Wurlitzer (ES) Orgatron Series 20 Serial #11608 (retrofitted with MIDI and VPO-Hauptwerk) with Leslie 44W (shorty).
        Hammond BC Serial #5070 with Leslie 31A (tallboy) tone cabinet
        A.L. Swan antique pump organ (C.1852) Cherry Valley NY
        Member of the Lutheran Church (LCMS): traditional worship. Cleveland Clinic Spiritual Care volunteer with the chaplain's office.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mainstreet View Post
          I play a model 300 in a church, the same organ that was installed in 1973. I find that the tone is thin and shrill, almost like playing a reed organ. Is there anything that can be done to give the sound some depth?
          Originally posted by davidecasteel View Post
          I think there is probably something wrong with the instrument--it should not be thin and shrill.
          Mainstreet,

          Welcome to the Forum. I concur with David & Sam. There are two issues which can cause what you describe:
          1. The woofers on the speakers have suffered from deterioration of the foam surrounds, and therefore cannot speaker properly. It is a fairly inexpensive fix to find someone to re-surround the speakers, OR
          2. Someone has recently done work on the organ, and has either connected the speakers in reverse phase, OR a driver has been replaced and wired backwards, thereby causing phase cancellation.

          In either situation, it's a fairly simple fix for a knowledgeable person.

          Has any work been done recently that might cause either of the situations I mention above?

          Michael
          Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
          • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
          • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
          • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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          • #6
            Lloyd, Christmas Eve candlelight service, maybe?

            David

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            • #7
              David,

              It was a candlelight service, but the fire was caused by electrical lines coming into the VERY old church building. I knew I had snuffed my candle into my water glass at the organ. However, a candle was first suspected by everyone.
              Lloyd

              Happily retired organist/pianist from the Church of the Brethren...Allen ADC-4300-DK.
              Home...Wurlitzer (ES) Orgatron Series 20 Serial #11608 (retrofitted with MIDI and VPO-Hauptwerk) with Leslie 44W (shorty).
              Hammond BC Serial #5070 with Leslie 31A (tallboy) tone cabinet
              A.L. Swan antique pump organ (C.1852) Cherry Valley NY
              Member of the Lutheran Church (LCMS): traditional worship. Cleveland Clinic Spiritual Care volunteer with the chaplain's office.

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              • #8
                I will check the foam around the speakers. No one has worked on the organ other than to try and determine why the gyros are not working, that still has not been resolved. All proposed solutions are worth trying. I have played a MDS 45 in a nearby church and found the tone much more full, am I unfairly comparing a first generation organ with a model 20 years newer?

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