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    Has anyone ever played an Eminent digital organ? I'm not a fan of the electronic/digital organs I've played over the years, so I was wondering if this company, based in the Netherlands, had any new tricks up its sleeves? </P>


    I must say, they certainly design some very attractive-looking cases. Their American website is:http://www.eminent-usa.com.</P>


    Thanks. </P>

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    I have not played one, but I have a recording from the distributor. They do not sound bad, at least on the recording, but I do not know anything about the construction. Photos, as you know, can be deceiving. I sawinstruments for one maker, which shall remain nameless, (not the Eminent but also from the Netherlands) which looked nice until you started inspecting the case. It was made of MDF (medium density fiberboard) and that turned me off to purchasing one. My dad was a cabinet maker and I know what happens to MDF over real hardwood or even good grade plywood. </P>


    Hope that is a help.</P>

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      Hi,</p>

      I played an Eminent DCS 380c, at a dealer's house a few weeks ago. I can't say I was impressed. Sounded like it was unvoiced. The basic tone sounded processed. None of the stops fooled me into believing I was hearing pipes. As far as I know, their basic technology is little changed over the last 15 years. Improvements in synthesis is more because the knowledge base increases, than better hardware.</p>

      I'm sure other folk may find them more satisfying than I did. Their positive case type instruments may sound better because they use the case to fire the sound at the ceiling, so the sound is indirect.
      </p>

      AV
      </p>

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      • #4
        Re: Eminent Organs



        I am a proud owner of a 6 month oldEminent Capella III with lighted drawknows, divisional pistons and 64 voice library. It is solidly built and an absolute joy to play. Like any digital organ, the sound is much better when it's not blasting at you and the positive case type does sound better because the sound is fired at the ceiling. I also opted for external speakers and subwoofer which helps to disperse the sound. I lovethe soundso much I find myself practicing every day for at least an hour and at least 3 hours on the weekend (and I'm not a professional organist). In fact, since installation in early December, I have only missed 5 days of practice and that was because I was out of town. The dealer and I decided to wait a few months to do the final voicing which is scheduledfor the end of the month.My only regret is that I didn't go for a three manual.</P>
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        Don in Maryland</P>

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          [quote user="Chiff Drawbar"]


          Has anyone ever played an Eminent digital organ? I'm not a fan of the electronic/digital organs I've played over the years, so I was wondering if this company, based in the Netherlands, had any new tricks up its sleeves? </P>


          I must say, they certainly design some very attractive-looking cases. Their American website is:http://www.eminent-usa.com.</P>


          Thanks. </P>


          [/quote]</P>


          Eminent uses additive synthesis, not sampling. One of the strange things about hearing audio samples from many additive synth organ makers is that they seem to like demonstrating a small number of stops. I never hear full organ examples. Makes me wonder...</P>
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          Bill</P>

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            Eminent uses additive synthesis, not sampling. One of the strange
            things about hearing audio samples from many additive synth organ
            makers is that they seem to like demonstrating a small number of
            stops. I never hear full organ examples. Makes me wonder...
            </p>



            </p>



            Bill</p>


            </p>


            Hi Bill, I'm Wayne Grauel, an Eminent Importer.</p>


            Your are correct, most of us do send out CD's with specific stops featured. Maybe this is for two reasons...</p>


            1. Many of our clients are looking for period specific
            instruments and ecpecially with Baroque Organs, the quality of
            the specific color of the organ is a fundamental part of registrations
            from the period. As an example - be playing a Partita - each
            verse would illuminate some other specific color.</p>


            </p>


            In the same respect, I think most other organs companies play way
            too many Heavy Registrations with the (often successful) intent
            that people will hear the big sound and be overly impressed. It
            truly is a double edged sword, so many times i used my own drawing as
            and organist when I sit down to a good instrument. The first
            thing I pull out is the 8' principle and play away.. and go from there.
            </p>


            I must admit, when I do this to "many Digital Organs" I do not like
            what I hear.. ( as an organist )... I guess if I was selling
            them, I would be yanking out stops left and right.</p>


            </p>


            If you would like to hear some things, I have some CD's that I
            recorded specifically on a Modest Instrument in a small
            church. - Again.. why send out examples of " Do Not Try This At Home"

            </p>


            So, there is a colection of both specific colors and what I
            think you will find as some ... shall we say.. "full Registrations"
            complete with "ten fingers and toes". </p>


            Most of one CD completely revolves around service work, improvisations, and hymn singing - all recorded live.

            </p>


            You can go to my website at churchorgansales.com and fill out the
            request and I'll send you a set. (If you are in North America')


            </p>


            I'm not sending CD's all over the world at my expense...
            sorry. I'm in this becuase I love the instrument so I can't
            afford to do that. ( just being honest)</p>


            </p>


            Also, I know Arie V.really well, He has been a great help to
            me when I started 5 years ago. I had never even played Digitals
            until I heard this one.. so Arie has given me a lot of technical
            insight.. great guy! </p>


            </p>


            And he gives an honest assesment on what he hears. So, that
            can be good or bad.. depending on Who Voiced The Organ (which are
            actually voiced at the specific harmonic level.. and not just
            "coloring a sample". Arie would be the first to tell you that he
            has heard another specific Real Time Organ System that I have here and
            voiced personally, and they sound nothing like the ones he heard in
            Canada!

            </p>


            Take Care.</p>


            Wayne</p>


            </p>


            </p>


            </p>




            </p>

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            • #7
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              Thanks to everyone who has responded to my question about Eminent Organs. With Allen and Rodgers so completely dominating the American market, it's difficult for a more boutique digital organ company to get noticed. Although I've never heard an Eminent Organ, I am impressed with the intelligently written website, which seems directed more at musicians than "church organ committees."</P>


              For those considering ahome or chapel-sized instrument, I would urge you to check out the photos of the smallerEminent Organs. They have the look and individual detailsoffine little trackers. From a visual standpoint, at least, they leave Allen and Rodgers in the dust!</P>


              Thanks again for responding.</P>

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                [quote user="Chiff Drawbar"]


                Thanks to everyone who has responded to my question about Eminent Organs. With Allen and Rodgers so completely dominating the American market, it's difficult for a more boutique digital organ company to get noticed. [/quote]</P>


                I would have to say that it seems Johannus is doing well in the U.S.I don't think Allen and Rodgers are as dominant as they used to be.</P>

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