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  • #16
    Re: Allen 123-C



    Kevin,</p>

    I just came across the following information in my vertical file cabinet:</p>

    from Alan Johnson [[email protected]] Monday November 6, 2006: The output of the [Alesis] Nanoverb that goes to the amplifier has to have a 10K ohm resistor in series with the center conductor, otherwise you will not have any swell control. Each channel needs this. Regards, Al</p>

    At the time, Alan Johnson was a contributor to the Organ Forum. Hope this information is useful to you.</p>

    Carl
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    • #17
      Re: Allen 123-C



      Just use these:</p>

      http://store.hlabs.com/pk4/store.pl?view_product=55</p>

      </p>

      Also, I highly recommend this reverb unit:</p>

      http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=12418</p>

      I use one on my Allen 301-c:</p>

      [img]/photos/clavier/images/30271/original.aspx[/img]</p>

      It's has a <u>much</u> better quality sound than the nanoverb.
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      • #18
        Re: Allen 123-C



        Clavier,</p>

        How do you like your 301C?? There is one near my house for sale for $2,400.</p>

        I like my WurliTzer, but has no solo reeds other than an Oboe. How do your reeds sound with your reverb module?</p>


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        • #19
          Re: Allen 123-C



          Hi, All</P>


          Al is still around!</P>


          That is a wonderful instrument and I might be able to dig up some midi adapters for it if it isn't already upgraded.</P>


          The resistor mentioned is necessary for the swell pedal to work. A reverb has a low output impedance which does not permit the shunting effect of the light controlled resistor in the swell pedal. Adding the series resistor raises the impedance, allowing this function to work. </P>


          Remember the MOS series organ audio is low level around .1V. You really need to boost this to line level (1V) for good signal to noise ratio on reverb or mixer or whatever processing is used. A trick to do this is built in the T100 amplifier! The T100 has a built in preamp that feeds line level (1V) to the level adjustment potentiometer on the amplifier. You can connect the preamp output to an added phono plug (line out) and potentiometer to an added phono plug (amplifier line input) This way you don't need the series resistor, and your processing is at line (1V) level. If any of you need a schematic, email me at ([email protected]). I'll make a pdf file if desired. Later Allens operate at line level. If you get a T100 amp be sure it has the preamp built in. Lastly, the T100 is a powerful amplifier with response from 10 Hz to above 50 Khz. Even the newer amps can't compare with this. If it gets hum replace the 2 large electrolytic capacitors </P>


          As a side note I got a Lexicon MX400 reverb and it is very good. I use it for both Allen and Pipe reverb. It has 4 channels and surround sound but I haven't tried that yet.</P>


          Al</P>

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          • #20
            Re: Allen 123-C



            Well, actually I can't comment on the reeds at this moment because I haven't played my Allen in over a month. It's currently in another state. I can tell you this, though: It makes a pretty nice sound. I find it quite suitable for a practice instrument and would recommend one to anyone, BUT you have to keep in mind, I got mine for free. My total investment in this organ is $175, (reverb/attenuators). I personally wouldn't pay more than $800 for a stock 2m MOS 1 Allen. $300-500 is a more realistic price for such an instrument. With $2400 you could likely get something much newer/more capable. If you want one though, watch Ebay. They come up often, (for sane prices).</p>

            PS: Al, I would still really like to buy three of those MIDI adapters from you. </p>

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            -Joe.
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            • #21
              I just got an Allen 123. I'd like to give it to an organ student so he can practice at home. One 'slight' (haha) problem is that the bench and the music desk are missing. Anyone have either kicking around? the pedal is full sized AGO and only Allen benches will fit.
              Email me at [email protected] if you can help?

              John
              Can't play an note but love all things "organ" Responsible for 2/10 Wurli pipe organ, Allen 3160(wife's), Allen LL324, Allen GW319EX, ADC4600, many others. E-organ shop to fund free organ lessons for kids.

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              • #22
                Any AGO bench should fit. You may have to raise up the foot-rest to clear the back of the Allen pedalboard.

                (Thank you for your generosity!)

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