Hi folks, I have a Hammond Model E that I'm pondering speakers on....I have it hooked up temporarily to a Tallboy 31A but I don't have a half-moon control switch.....where would be a good place to obtain the proper switch to wire up either a Leslie 122 or a Tallboy to this organ?
I have a 147 Leslie as well...would that work with a E?
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
Use the 31A. Both E&ME and I have 31H's on our Model E's. You need that to capture the deep bass tones. It also helps to use a second Leslie. I have a 245 also on mine and I have lots of choices. It is also set up to run with 21H, 22H, and 122's. The half moon switches are on ebay all the time. In fact, there are several on there now (or just ended) and they're brand new. You can run any ac switch separately from the amp ac plug socket to operate the motors. It doesn't have to be in the 6 pin cable. Post a picture of the 31A amp as it differs slightly from the 31H and there are several series of it. And, yes the 147 will work also. Hook the signal up to one of the G terminals and ground. The 122 can be hooked up where the Hammond Tone cabinet plugs in. Then you will need a hookup kit for it. The old number kit was 428. I think the new 8000 will work also out of the box. Remember the 147 types and 122 types are totally different hookups and best not to mix unless you really understand what you're doing.. Either one type or the other.
Hammonds: A; AB; B3; D; E; 6-M3's; 2-A100; T582C.
Leslies: 3-31H; 21H, 22H, 4-44W; 46W; 25; 47; 45; 125; 50C; 51; 55C; 2-120; 122; 122A; 145; 147; 245; 770; 825; 2-102; 2-103; 300.
Wicks 2/5 pipe organ; Yamaha upright; Kurzweil Micro Piano & Micro B with M-Audio Oxygen 61; Yamaha DGX520; Wurlitzer 4100 (it came with a Leslie!). Peavey KB100 keyboard amp. Peavey Bass Guitar. Yes, I have A. D. (acquisition disorder) and don't want it cured.
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
the knob by the pedal indicator light is a "Chorus Vibrato"...... did Hammond make model "EV"s???? it has a standard Vibrato knob...works just like my CV. I'll post a better pic tomorrow!
this one is not "old school"..i.e...no chrome drawbars...standard black with white numbers.
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
That's a nice clean E you've got there NYC, I sure wish I had mine back. Mine had a 31A and a 31H on it, running out of two separate BC preamps for true divisions (my own modification)I highly recommend those tallboy Leslies. According to this 1946 brochure (courtesy of theatreorgans.com) the EV was indeed an available upgrade; yours is the first i've ever seen with it. </P>
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
neat...mine does appear to be an EV then...HOWEVER it has been modified by previous owners..the split swell shoes don't work...everything is wired up to work on ONE swell shoe (the left hand one)..the right hand swell shoe does nothing now......also I don't think the "Split" vibrato works to separate the vibrato on either the Swell or the Great..it just works for both manuals together....I'm not sure if that is standard on the EV or not????? :(
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
<>Tremulant, pre-dating vibrato was split on the E (other models too?)
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<>Vibrato retreofits on models which were made before the
introduction of the vibrato line scanner can be split. I think,
depending on the year of the upgrade.E&ME?? </p><>
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
What NYCfb doesn't tell us is what the nameplate says. It is true that the 1946 brochure lists an EV, but Hammond brochures often promised things that may not necessarily have been literally so.</P>
AFAIK, no EVs ever left the factory. No E's were made after 1942, so any that left the factory postwar were probably leftovers. When Vibrato came out, Hammond also offered retrofit kits for the Tremulant instruments and my best guess is that the EV mentioned in the brochure could be had only be a dealer retrofitting an E he happened to have left over in stock or could scrounge from the factory.</P>
The -V consoles, and the retrofit kits, all came with a single-channel preamplifier designed for use with the Vibrato kit, and on retrofits the original preamplifier was scrapped. The rheostat box wiring is also much different on Vibrato units than on Tremulant units, and the wiring of both the preamplifier and the rehostat box for Vibrato precluded any use of Tremulant or any splitting of the manuals. </P>
So NYCfb's instrument has it the only way I know of that would be possible - rewire one rheostat box, scrap the other one and its associated swell shoe, jumper the preset busbars to one matching transformer, and operate it just like any other -V console, except that this one has 32 pedals and pedal presets.</P>
I suppose if someone wanted to, they could figure out how to get a second Vibrato control, switch, delay line and everything else into the console, but I offhand don't see how.</P>
As far as the original question, I agree with the Admiral to keep the 31A and put in separate wiring for the Leslie motor switching, as would have been done with the originals. Personally, I would also add a PR-40 for the added bass and also the reverberation. An HR-40 would be OK, but the PR-40 was definitely the best, in my opinion, for both bass and for reverberation.</P>
1937 Model E
PR-40 w/Accutronic Reverberation
Leslie 31-H
Schulmerich ChimeATron
Re: Speaker recommendations for a Model E Hammond?
Wow!! What a fascinating instrument!! I've never seen anything like that before . . . 32 AGO pedals on a Hammond and that sort of thing amongst all of the other unique appointments; not to mention the console, which issomething else again! Awesome! This was obviously not one ofyour average run-of-mill Hammonds!</P>
From the pics, I amexeriencing difficulty indentifying the wood, although the pieces seem to have been carefully chosen. What kind of wood did they use??</P>
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