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  • "Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah."



    Anyone put one on an organ?</p>

    </p>

    Can you?</p>

    </p>

    Been listening to Wakiepoo's classic organ solo "Where is this Dream of your Youth?" (Strawbs) . He's getting non-organ wah-wahish sounds somehow.</p>

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    Also noticed this on early live Earth &amp; Fire (Dutch group).</p>

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    Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



    Yes, I've done this. An unusual effect so I didn't use it that much. Some Lowrey home organs from the 60's and early 70's had the function built in. When switched on, the organ's volume pedal controlled the wah effect.</p>

    Andy
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    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

    Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
    Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
    Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
    Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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    • #3
      Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



      Waking my foggy memory again. I had a Wurlitzer that would do that and I believe a Kimball from about that same era had it too. And I think a lot of the 70's and early 80's organs had a wah-trumpet tab/stop.</p>

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      Lloyd
      Lowrey SU-630 Palladium, Lowrey GX-1, Hammond Aurora

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      • #4
        Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



        Some Gulbransen models had the "electro-mute" stop/effect controlled by a knee lever - basically the same thing. First appeared on the 1135 Rialto K in 1964 I think...</P>


        -jim</P>
        Jimmy Williams
        Hobbyist (organist/technician)
        Gulbransen Model D with Leslie 204

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        • #5
          Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;

          And Baldwin copied the Gully ElectroMute with their Muted Reed.
          It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

          New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

          Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
          Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
          Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
          Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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          • #6
            Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



            Chester Thompson does it on a B-3 (Knock Youself Out) by sliding the lower two or three drawbars in and out.</P>


            Chester-freaking-Thompson (sheesh). </P>
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            I should go buy a wah wah pedal, I guess.</P>

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            • #7
              Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



              Groove Holmes would be proud! I think he was the King of funky wah-wah organ.</P>


              Another trick you can play with is hold down the 'C' preset key with your pinky while keying back and forth between two other presets keysto get wah typetone changes</P>

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              • #8
                Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



                The Peddlers and the Big organ Trio also put wah in their FX chain.</p>

                The normal thing would be to put a FET buffer at some stage in the organ and have an effects loop (probably recipes on the forum somewhere) but I vaguely remember hearing that one of the above blokes had the wah put after the upper manual, so the lower was still playing normally. I can't confirm that however. </p>
                -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                • #9
                  Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;

                  [quote user="Brendon Wright"]


                  .....I vaguely remember hearing that one of the above blokes had the wah put after the upper manual, so the lower was still playing normally. I can't confirm that however. </P>


                  [/quote]</P>


                  That is how Groove Holmes set his up. Wah-wah on the top manual andthe bottom straight. He also played organ through and envelope filter. I think most guys today refer to an envelope filter as an auto wah. I used to play a Hohner Clavinet through an envelope filter. That was the hip thing to do i the 70s. I always did like that sound.</P>


                  Here is an article on Groove Holmes that sort of goes into his effects. Plus thae guy has a bunch of MP3 clips of Groove playing.</P>


                  http://organfreak.com/groove.html</P>

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                  • #10
                    Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



                    This guy put his M3 through a CryBaby Wah-Wah. Pretty cool sound.</P>


                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pEwUMZ1g4</P>

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                    • #11
                      Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



                      well a couple of the early 1970's Farfisa organs had a wah wah effect built in.</p>

                      one model that did was the 256 rv
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                      • #12
                        Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;

                        [quote user="stevengwaltney"]

                        This guy put his M3 through a CryBaby Wah-Wah. Pretty cool sound.</p>


                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pEwUMZ1g4</p>

                        [/quote]</p>

                        Dang, After hearing this and listening the the Big Organ Trio all week, I gotta get me a Wah Wah too! </p>

                        Besides the Wah Wah I just love the tone that Big Organ Trio's B3 player gets. I've been trying to get the sound he gets on Hip Hugger with my M3, OD unit and Leslie. Anyone know what kind of Leslie/amp setup he uses?</p>

                        I'll tell ya, this group is getting me back to listening Jazz Fusion stuff again(Weather Report used to be one of my favorites). Are there any other groups now using the Hammond in a similar vein?</p>

                        3B
                        </p>
                        http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



                        Yamaha DGX-300
                        1959 Hammond M3
                        1961 Hammond A101
                        VB3 with M Audio Axiom
                        1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
                        1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
                        2011 Neo Ventilator
                        Casio WK-7500
                        Yamaha P50m Module
                        Roland VR-09
                        Casio PX-5S

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                        • #13
                          Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;

                          [quote user="stevengwaltney"]

                          This guy put his M3 through a CryBaby Wah-Wah. Pretty cool sound.</p>


                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pEwUMZ1g4</p>

                          [/quote]</p>

                          Dang, After hearing this and listening the the Big Organ Trio all week, I gotta get me a Wah Wah too! </p>

                          Besides the Wah Wah I just love the tone that Big Organ Trio's B3 player gets. I've been trying to get the sound he gets on Hip Hugger with my M3, OD unit and Leslie. Anyone know what kind of Leslie/amp setup he uses?</p>

                          I'll tell ya, this group is getting me back to listening Jazz Fusion stuff again(Weather Report used to be one of my favorites). Are there any other groups now using the Hammond in a similar vein?</p>

                          3B
                          </p>
                          http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



                          Yamaha DGX-300
                          1959 Hammond M3
                          1961 Hammond A101
                          VB3 with M Audio Axiom
                          1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
                          1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
                          2011 Neo Ventilator
                          Casio WK-7500
                          Yamaha P50m Module
                          Roland VR-09
                          Casio PX-5S

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                          • #14
                            Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



                            Weather Report/Spyro Gyra. That slurpy-slick US fusion should be all spat out into the shoite bucket.</P>


                            You want 70's Euro-fusion.</P>
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                            • #15
                              Re: &quot;Wah-wah, You've given me a wah-wah.&quot;



                              Actually, I kinda agree with ya baggy, I picked up a bunch of spyro gyra a while back on LP, it was fun, but sure not as aggressive as early Focus.</p>

                              It wasn't just the Americans that went slick though. Listen to the Focus albums Focus Con Proby or Mother Focus or whatever... they'd completely lost their edginess and gone the slick Elevator way of late 70's like everybody else. "hip" Lounge music!</p>

                              That late 70's game show fusion dated really badly, while the earlier stuff still has a fresh rawness that doesn't get old. It's when sophistication and a self congratulatory "cleverness" sets in that a band gets mouldy really quick!</p>

                              Big Organ Trio are good and raw.</p>

                              Focus are back good and strong, I got an email from a friend this week who was on his way to see them in concert. They were sitting in the plane in the row ahead of him!</p>

                              This friend also likes a bit of organ. Here he is on his own C3:http://www.myspace.com/bergsinferno</p>

                              The key is WHAT is your fusion FUSED from?? It's just a cross genre genre, a mixture of styles. </p>

                              Is it Jazz/easy listening/lullaby cross? Jazz/rock/classical/folk? Punk/folk/hiphop/swing? </p>

                              Focus's mixture changed over time, kinda lost the hard rock edge, along with the classical and euro folk. All that was left was.......</p>

                              ...anyhow!</p>

                              On the Organ trio thing, Bob, do you mean current bands or links to older bands?</p>

                              I was sent a cool link to a brian Auger 1975 concert that was kinda cool.</p>

                              http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/concer...StartTrackID=4</p>

                              On the Internet Archive there's a a band... I think they're "Robert Walter's Heavy Organ" something or other, but they are more jazzy and less like Hendrix than the BOT.</p>

                              Chris Vipond recently mentioned Medeski, Martin, and Wood, a different sort of trio but their stuff on Myspace was pretty innovative. They're quite new.</p>

                              The other thing is to go to BOT's myspace page and trawl thru their top friends....</p>
                              -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                              -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                              -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                              -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                              -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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