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    I'd now like to have a reverb option. Just wondering what works well for a reverb-less M3. Not sure if I want to go through the hassle and expense of finding and installing a Hammond tank on it as I saw that someone was happy using a Alesis Nano verb unit between their M3 and external amp. I have a line out on my M3. I've seen these new for 99$ but there are all kind of reverb pedals available (like Danolectric) for a lot less. Has anyone tried a reverb pedal with their Hammond?</p>

    Thanks </p>

    Bob
    </p>
    http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



    Yamaha DGX-300
    1959 Hammond M3
    1961 Hammond A101
    VB3 with M Audio Axiom
    1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
    1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
    2011 Neo Ventilator
    Casio WK-7500
    Yamaha P50m Module
    Roland VR-09
    Casio PX-5S

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    Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?



    I've never tried a reverb pedal, but for line level output, aren't you supposed to use rackmount effects?</p>

    </p>

    there are instrument level effects loop kits available from TREK II i believe, but you'd need 1 for each manual (and a stereo reverb pedal... they do exist)</p>

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    • #3
      Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

      What are rackmount effects?
      http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



      Yamaha DGX-300
      1959 Hammond M3
      1961 Hammond A101
      VB3 with M Audio Axiom
      1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
      1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
      2011 Neo Ventilator
      Casio WK-7500
      Yamaha P50m Module
      Roland VR-09
      Casio PX-5S

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      • #4
        Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

        OK figured it out through google. I think that Alesis reverb unit is a r m effects model- . Will look it up.
        http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



        Yamaha DGX-300
        1959 Hammond M3
        1961 Hammond A101
        VB3 with M Audio Axiom
        1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
        1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
        2011 Neo Ventilator
        Casio WK-7500
        Yamaha P50m Module
        Roland VR-09
        Casio PX-5S

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        • #5
          Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?



          Actually The prices of Hammond and other organ reverb tanks are not
          bad on ebay. I heard that you can use an old stereo amp to drive it. I have a spare SS stereo amp. How and where would I hook all this up to my M3? Would I be better off hooking it up to my Leslie (which I use all the time anyway)? I do have a line out on the M3 (I converted the rca input on the swell pedal box).
          </p>I tried Googling and searching here for an instructional for the M3 hookup but came up with nothing.
          http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



          Yamaha DGX-300
          1959 Hammond M3
          1961 Hammond A101
          VB3 with M Audio Axiom
          1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
          1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
          2011 Neo Ventilator
          Casio WK-7500
          Yamaha P50m Module
          Roland VR-09
          Casio PX-5S

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          • #6
            Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?



            could always build this:</p>

            http://mitatechs.org/files/Leslie_ki...reverb_kit.pdf</p>
            -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
            -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
            -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
            -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
            -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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            • #7
              Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

              Hmm, I'd have to find this first: "Remove cable from amplifier that runs to the divide network. Insert this plug into
              reverb amplifier socket marked Dividing Network." Does this refer to the crossover network?

              The reverb speaker in the 122 is side mounted but I already have a hole
              for where the tweeter was in the upper center on the 130. I wonder if
              that speaker placement matters?
              http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



              Yamaha DGX-300
              1959 Hammond M3
              1961 Hammond A101
              VB3 with M Audio Axiom
              1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
              1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
              2011 Neo Ventilator
              Casio WK-7500
              Yamaha P50m Module
              Roland VR-09
              Casio PX-5S

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                <div>BBB,</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small; ">I think I like the reverb thru the rotor, personally.</span></div><div></div><div>(pasted from an email, for those watching the thread apart from Bob)</div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">However... 35,000 results on googlefor "leslie dividing network"... It DOES appear this is another name for the crossover.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Well I never!</font></div><div></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I guess speaker placement won't matter so much. It would be cooler to have it perpendicular to the main speaker so itcomes</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">to the ear from a different direction, I'm guessing.</font></div><div></div><div>The PR40 has one pointing to the ceiling and one facing forward.</div><div></div><div>-B</div><div></div><div></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">
                </span></div>
                -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                • #9
                  Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                  I got some good answers at the Hammond Zone. Looks like I can put a
                  splitter on the line out to the Epi amp and have one signal go to that
                  and the other to a reverb pedal------&gt; ss amp------&gt; speaker
                  (inside the 130) set up. I have a local music store that lets me easily
                  return equipment that doesn't work out for me so I mayswell try one of
                  their pedals.
                  http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



                  Yamaha DGX-300
                  1959 Hammond M3
                  1961 Hammond A101
                  VB3 with M Audio Axiom
                  1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
                  1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
                  2011 Neo Ventilator
                  Casio WK-7500
                  Yamaha P50m Module
                  Roland VR-09
                  Casio PX-5S

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                  • #10
                    Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?



                    YEAHHHH BABY!!</p>

                    It's great having a bitta 'verb.</p>

                    -B</p>
                    -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                    -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                    -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                    -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                    -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?



                      Hi Bob,</P>


                      It seems you're a DIY guy and you have some experience with sewer tubes. Why not try this one: http://www.groenewoudnet.nl/Projects.html</P>


                      Just scroll down a bit and you'll find just what you're looking for... [:P]</P>


                      Jussi</P>
                      E-333 (modified)
                      Leslie 147 (surprise, not modified...)
                      Previous:
                      T-200 (modified and sold)
                      T-500 (modified and sold)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                        That's cool, he even has a plate on it designating which project number it is etc, just like a hammond organ!
                        -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                        -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                        -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                        -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                        -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                          Holy Maloney! neat stuff there!
                          http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



                          Yamaha DGX-300
                          1959 Hammond M3
                          1961 Hammond A101
                          VB3 with M Audio Axiom
                          1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
                          1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
                          2011 Neo Ventilator
                          Casio WK-7500
                          Yamaha P50m Module
                          Roland VR-09
                          Casio PX-5S

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                          • #14
                            Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                            accutronics still makes the same reverb tanks they made for hammond back then, if you can power one with an amp you already have, you could contact them... if you give them a hammond part number, they'll tell you what number you should order from them...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Reverb unit or pedal for M3?

                              Found I had a reverb unit right under my nose! I bought a Realistic Electronic Reverb unit cat. # 38-110 (no model # , out of production now) about 25 years ago that I've used as a preamp for my practice mic in my studio). Duh...forgot it was a reverb unit! Not sure if it compares with a decent pedal but I put a splitter on my line out of the M3 and ran the reverb line into my surround sound stereo. Now I'm tri-amped! (130, Epiphone for my top Leslie unit, and the reverb unit/amp) it's a real balancing act with the sound adjustments now but I got 'Verb! If I put the reverb amp too loud can't hear the Leslies well and vice versa. ( She's probably right, but my wife thinks i've lost my mind with the cables running all over the place from the M3-she says I'm obsessed with my organ. I told her it's a common problem with guys on the forum![;)] The Realistic Electronic Reverb unit has 4 sliders: volume, delay, repeat, depth. Never have been able to figure out what "repeat" does. I need to get a Y connector to connect the M3's line out to both stereo channels to see what that and the surround sound will do.
                              http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



                              Yamaha DGX-300
                              1959 Hammond M3
                              1961 Hammond A101
                              VB3 with M Audio Axiom
                              1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
                              1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
                              2011 Neo Ventilator
                              Casio WK-7500
                              Yamaha P50m Module
                              Roland VR-09
                              Casio PX-5S

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