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    Hey everyone. I am learning to play on a Hammond L-143 that I love.</P>


    However, I have no leslie so the sounds isn't really complete. However, since I am just learning, it isn't really feasible ( or possible ) for me to go out and spend 800 on one either.</P>


    However, I may have a half way solution that will be good enough for a beginner. I found an old Gulbertson ( spelling? ) organ on craigslist that the aldy gave to me to get out of her house ( needed room to put up a Chrstmas tree ). The organ itself ( the organ part ) sounds like CRAP, but I don't really care. I got it for the built in leslie speaker, tube power amp, etc.</P>


    My plan is to take the tube amp, leslie, etc out of the Gulbertson and build a leslie cab for my L143 with it.</P>


    I know it is a full range speaker in this leslie ( no horns ) so it isn't the same as some of the real nice ones.</P>


    That being said, have any of you done something similar? Any tips before I start? I know this process will be full of problems that will pop up and I progress, just wanted a heads up.</P>

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    Re: Making a Leslie ( Kind of )



    Hi
    </p>

    Also, check the Archives for threads about this... There is one current at the present, under this heading.. </p>

    John
    </p>

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    • #3
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      There are plenty of threads about this, including the current one, all full of useful info and photos. Just one point, the speaker in these internals is definitely not full-range. It will be a low-wattage 8" unit - 20-30 watts max and no bass, please! When you build your own cab, you may want to change this for something more capable.</p>

      Andy
      </p>
      It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

      New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

      Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
      Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
      Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
      Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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      • #4
        Re: Making a Leslie ( Kind of )

        First tip is to do a rough front/side/top and rough perspective view of how you want it to look. You have to account for room for your tube amp (lucky devil!)and also room for the bass to form properly. Do a decent search for sub enclosures and find out about how big the enclosure will have to be if for example you move up to a 12 inch speaker... or a 15!This was my concept drawing, I hadn't taken a whole bunch of things into account!After that I ruled up a rough scale one with measurements worked out... it's in the folder somewhere... a pile of T500 and leslie mods 10cm thick!Then built the sucker: In the end it sat on its face with wheels underneath. I had to extend the back to let the bass form properly... then I built a treble unit on top when I got another rotor....now it sho' is butt ugly! The bass unit is a tad too wide, it sticks out into the doorway. I hadn't planned for it to sit face down. Working out the measurements for a standard leslie cab is a good thing, they're more narrow one way and stand nicely. Check out these beauties:Nope, can't get the address, parts of the internet seem to be down at the moment and I can't get to bullfrogmusic.caIn the blog there's an entry from a few months ago to a bunch of DIY leslie jobs, cabinets and all. I'll have to find it later.The best I can offer is the google snapshot of the blog page: http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...gear-info/half way down you'll find "how to build a homemade leslie cabinet" with a little luck the links will still work.No doubt we shall trade ideas soon!Cheers,-Brendoon
        -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
        -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
        -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
        -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
        -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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          Cool.</P>


          Those pages look like excerpts from Leonardo's notebooks.</P>

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            Yep, </p>

            Brendon's going to get that thing (and his T) to actually fly one day. I think he may be related to the Wright brothers as well! You know the "invention" gene and all that![:D]</p>

            Seriously Carl,</p>

            Welcome and jump over to the "Building your own Leslie" thread where there are all kinds of ideas being shared!</p>

            Bob</p>
            http://www.petty-larceny-band.com/



            Yamaha DGX-300
            1959 Hammond M3
            1961 Hammond A101
            VB3 with M Audio Axiom
            1975 Leslie 130 upgraded with V21 top rotor, tube amp, wood lower rotor
            1972 Leslie 825 upgraded with top rotor, etc.
            2011 Neo Ventilator
            Casio WK-7500
            Yamaha P50m Module
            Roland VR-09
            Casio PX-5S

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            • #7
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              Durnit!</p>

              Internet's worst I've ever seen.Even lost this post before It would go up.This is the second attempt...</p>

              No post button on this one.... Wonder if it'll appear before I finish?</p>

              </p>

              Cheers CEB!</p>

              I'm trying to edit the above one so it makes sense and has working links and the right pics....but it goes down every time!</p>

              Instead of editing I might Quote it and put it up the way It's meant to look.</p>

              If I don't come back today you'll know I just can't get back onto the Organ forum today....Wonder what's going on?</p>

              Cheers!</p>

              -Brendoon</p>
              -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
              -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
              -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
              -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
              -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                Re: Making a Leslie ( Kind of )

                Right, internet's still giving me hell... Half an hour visit to the forum is becoming hours!

                Here's the above post but formatted.

                Hopefully it'll post up properly this time:



                First tip is to do a rough front/side/top and rough perspective view of how you want it to look.

                You have to account for room for your tube amp (lucky devil!)and also room for the bass to form properly.
                Do a decent search for sub enclosures and find out about how big the enclosure will have to be if for example you move up to a 12 inch speaker... or a 15!



                This was my concept drawing, I hadn't taken a whole bunch of things into account!After that I ruled up a rough scale one with measurements worked out... it's in the folder somewhere... a pile of T500 and leslie mods 10cm thick!Then built the sucker:



                In the end it sat on its face with wheels underneath. I had to extend the back to let the bass form properly... then I built a treble unit on top when I got another rotor....now it sho' is butt ugly!



                The bass unit is a tad too wide, it sticks out into the doorway. I hadn't planned for it to sit face down.

                Working out the measurements for a standard leslie cab is a good thing, they're more narrow one way and stand nicely.
                Check out these beauties: Nope, can't get the address, parts of the internet seem to be down at the moment and I can't get to bullfrogmusic.ca

                In the blog there's an entry from a few months ago to a bunch of DIY leslie jobs, cabinets and all. I'll have to find it later.
                The best I can offer is the google snapshot of the blog page:

                http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...age-gear-info/

                This time I'm in firefox. I hope it turns the above into a link... Firefox doesn't show any of the normal buttons....

                half way down you'll find "how to build a homemade leslie cabinet" with a little luck the links will still work.
                No doubt we shall trade ideas soon!

                Cheers,
                -Brendoon
                -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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                • #9
                  Re: Making a Leslie ( Kind of )



                  Right, internet's still giving me hell... Half an hour visit to the forum is becoming hours!</p>


                  </p>

                  Here's the above post but formatted.</p>


                  </p>

                  Hopefully it'll post up properly this time:</p>


                  </p>


                  </p>


                  </p>

                  First tip is to do a rough front/side/top and rough perspective view of how you want it to look.</p>


                  </p>

                  You have to account for room for your tube amp (lucky devil!)and also room for the bass to form properly.</p>

                  Do a decent search for sub enclosures and find out about how big the enclosure will have to be if for example you move up to a 12 inch speaker... or a 15!</p>


                  </p>

                  </p>


                  </p>

                  This was my concept drawing, I hadn't taken a whole bunch of things into account!After that I ruled up a rough scale one with measurements worked out... it's in the folder somewhere... a pile of T500 and leslie mods 10cm thick!Then built the sucker:</p>


                  </p>

                  </p>


                  </p>

                  In the end it sat on its face with wheels underneath. I had to extend the back to let the bass form properly... then I built a treble unit on top when I got another rotor....now it sho' is butt ugly!</p>


                  </p>

                  </p>


                  </p>

                  The bass unit is a tad too wide, it sticks out into the doorway. I hadn't planned for it to sit face down.</p>


                  </p>

                  Working out the measurements for a standard leslie cab is a good thing, they're more narrow one way and stand nicely.</p>

                  Check out these beauties: Nope, can't get the address, parts of the internet seem to be down at the moment and I can't get to bullfrogmusic.ca</p>


                  </p>

                  In the blog there's an entry from a few months ago to a bunch of DIY leslie jobs, cabinets and all. I'll have to find it later.</p>

                  The best I can offer is the google snapshot of the blog page:</p>

                  http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...age-gear-info/</p>


                  </p>

                  half way down you'll find "how to build a homemade leslie cabinet" with a little luck the links will still work.</p>

                  No doubt we shall trade ideas soon!</p>


                  </p>

                  Cheers,</p>

                  -Brendoon</p>
                  -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                  -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                  -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                  -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                  -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Making a Leslie ( Kind of )



                    Right, internet's still giving me hell... Half an hour visit to the forum is becoming hours!</p>


                    </p>

                    Here's the above post but formatted.</p>


                    </p>

                    Hopefully it'll post up properly this time:</p>


                    </p>


                    </p>


                    </p>

                    First tip is to do a rough front/side/top and rough perspective view of how you want it to look.</p>


                    </p>

                    You have to account for room for your tube amp (lucky devil!)and also room for the bass to form properly.</p>

                    Do a decent search for sub enclosures and find out about how big the enclosure will have to be if for example you move up to a 12 inch speaker... or a 15!</p>


                    </p>

                    </p>


                    </p>

                    This was my concept drawing, I hadn't taken a whole bunch of things into account!After that I ruled up a rough scale one with measurements worked out... it's in the folder somewhere... a pile of T500 and leslie mods 10cm thick!Then built the sucker:</p>


                    </p>

                    </p>


                    </p>

                    In the end it sat on its face with wheels underneath. I had to extend the back to let the bass form properly... then I built a treble unit on top when I got another rotor....now it sho' is butt ugly!</p>


                    </p>

                    </p>


                    </p>

                    The bass unit is a tad too wide, it sticks out into the doorway. I hadn't planned for it to sit face down.</p>


                    </p>

                    Working out the measurements for a standard leslie cab is a good thing, they're more narrow one way and stand nicely.</p>

                    Check out these beauties: Nope, can't get the address, parts of the internet seem to be down at the moment and I can't get to bullfrogmusic.ca</p>


                    </p>

                    In the blog there's an entry from a few months ago to a bunch of DIY leslie jobs, cabinets and all. I'll have to find it later.</p>

                    The best I can offer is the google snapshot of the blog page:</p>

                    http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...age-gear-info/</p>


                    </p>

                    half way down you'll find "how to build a homemade leslie cabinet" with a little luck the links will still work.</p>

                    No doubt we shall trade ideas soon!</p>


                    </p>

                    Cheers,</p>

                    -Brendoon</p>
                    -1958 Hofner 550 archtop guitar -1959 C3 and PR40- -1964 Busillachio Harmonium- -1964 M101-
                    -1967ish Leslie 122- -1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)-
                    -DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout-
                    -1980 Electrokey Electric Piano- -Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)-
                    -1990 Jansen GMF150 amp- -1992 Korg 01W/fd- -1992 G&L S-500 geetar.

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