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    I had asked the forum earlier for ways to connect my M102 to a guitar amp and I had bought a 6 pin plug cheap off eBay , then hooked up the two pins 1 and 6 to a A 1/4 male plug attached to the end my Leslie plug. Results =nothing useable. I did get organ sound out the amp but only if amp volume was almost nil too overdriven if a hair past that. This is not the way to go.

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    Did you put in the resistor as per the instructions? If you simply feed the input of a guitar amp with a speaker level signal, of course it will overdrive as you describe, as the level is way too hot.

    Did you research any of the dozens of threads on proper line out circuits, as suggested?
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    • #3
      There is diagram of circuit, That I have seen. That is connected to speaker wires. I thought that there might be a way to connect to one of my guitar amps using the very Leslie cable being that my amps are on a different wall in my studio, Had it worked it would have given a choice of a variety of amps. But My big mistake was not putting two and two together.
      The signal coming from the cable is a signal coming from the A0-29 amplifier. Its Amplified. But my Leslie 47 has a amplifier in it as well. How is it possible that this works with that but not with another amp? Unless in the Leslie Amp there is a similar circuit already built into it, sort of like the diagram that was suggested. I did look up on eBay for the parts needed to build the circuit. The 8ohm 10 watt resistor, 20k audio taper potentiometer, 10uf capacitor, and finally there is a 1K resistor. The 1K resistor is where I get hung up on. What wattage do I need to get. ???

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      • #4
        There is a circuit already built into the Leslie amp for taking these signals. Personally, getting organ sound out of my M's, I did the little mod which turns the RCA phono in into a line out, run it to a mixer to control the signal, and then headphone amp out to the input of my guitar amp, always works like a charm and doesn't hurt my equipment. If you want a link to this mod I could probably go and find it for you, has instructions and all you really have to do is flip a few wires and add a new connection. The best part about this, in my opinion, is that it bypasses the power section of the AO-29, meaning that it uses only the pre-amp which is very similar to the AO-28.
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        • #5
          The Leslie amp is designed to be run with a hot signal. A guitar amp is NOT designed to run with a hot signal. They are different designs and require different signals.

          Pad the signal from the organ when going to a guitar amp. Use the full signal when going to the Leslie.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Alek Z View Post
            There is a circuit already built into the Leslie amp for taking these signals. Personally, getting organ sound out of my M's, I did the little mod which turns the RCA phono in into a line out, run it to a mixer to control the signal, and then headphone amp out to the input of my guitar amp, always works like a charm and doesn't hurt my equipment. If you want a link to this mod I could probably go and find it for you, has instructions and all you really have to do is flip a few wires and add a new connection. The best part about this, in my opinion, is that it bypasses the power section of the AO-29, meaning that it uses only the pre-amp which is very similar to the AO-28.
            I know the connection you are talking about, it was one of the first things I did. Hook up a FM male into the female on the A0-29 and the other end to a female 1/4 jack and mounted it on the front of the organ. guitar, microphone. plugs right in, Not too much volume. I thought this was only used for input. But Sure, I am open for Ideas Alek Z

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            • #7
              I thought you were after a Deep Purple sound. Isn't this distortion desirable?

              Either you have not done any research on a line out from a spinet, or you have and are not understanding the meaning of any of it.

              Have you read this?

              http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/LineOutFromASpinet

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ork View Post
                The signal coming from the cable is a signal coming from the A0-29 amplifier. Its Amplified. But my Leslie 47 has a amplifier in it as well. How is it possible that this works with that but not with another amp?
                Leslie amplifiers are specifically designed to take "speaker level" input signal, for ease of hookup and to minimize losses in long cables.
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                • #9
                  Seriously check this mod out, very useful

                  http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/G...omThePhonoJack

                  Not sure if we're talking about the same mod. This just turn the phono input into a line output, then you plug a male RCA into it and can run it to things! I usually put it through my mixer first for control, but it's a great little mod. Highly recommend.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by muckelroy View Post
                    I thought you were after a Deep Purple sound. Isn't this distortion desirable?

                    Either you have not done any research on a line out from a spinet, or you have and are not understanding the meaning of any of it.

                    Have you read this?

                    http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/LineOutFromASpinet
                    There is good distortion and bad distortion, when I did my first attempt/ shortcut using the Leslie plug in cable pin out "1" and "6" via a male plug to a 1/4 male plug, and by the way after I made my little adapter. I didn't just plug it in I used a multimeter test to see that it was safe first and then plugged into expensive little portable amp first, I got signal and then went to my next solid state amp, A Marshall mgdfx 50 which has a clean and a distorted channel. I tested first on the clean channel, Brought up the volume slowly and that is where I stopped testing and dubbed fail. Cleary it was my mistake and the wrong setup. This is why I. joined this forum. Living in this area, there is not Organ Support or for that matter even an Amp Guy. Heck, I wish I could even play another Hammond just to be able to make comparisons and hear what a proper one sounds like. You know what I mean. You can watch youtube all day but youtube videos will never replace hands on experience.
                    Any ways, The diagram you gave link to, has one missing bit of information. I am referring to the 1K resistor on the green wire, right before the 10uf non-polarized Cap. it doesn't give the wattage. Do you know what wattage needed for that resistor?
                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Alek Z View Post
                      Seriously check this mod out, very useful

                      http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/G...omThePhonoJack

                      Not sure if we're talking about the same mod. This just turn the phono input into a line output, then you plug a male RCA into it and can run it to things! I usually put it through my mixer first for control, but it's a great little mod. Highly recommend.
                      Alek, Great Link, never seen that one. Looks do able Thank you

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                      • #12
                        1/2 watt resistor is fine for the 1k.

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                        • #13
                          Or run the 1/4 jack into a cheap DI box with a -20dB pad switch.
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                          • #14
                            I received a message from the great Organ Guru and he sent me a link to Amazon, there is a a box that already made to do this connection. Awesome.

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                            • #15
                              FYI. I called Trekii. So helpful!! They are awesome. In addition to advising me on other issues, he's building me a box to, not only, tap a 1/4 inch out off the a028 in my C3 but also will have a switch to "mute"the Leslie so I can run it through my vent II and headphones so I can play at night without keeping my family and the neighbors up.

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