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  • How can I temporarily remove the forward portion & legs of an M2?

    I have an M2 that I need to move to another floor, and fit through the doorway of the elevator, which is just 22" wide (the organ is 26" deep). The only way I can make this work is to partially disassemble the cabinet, take off the legs, and either remove or tilt up (?) the lower manual, but I wanted to ask for advice here before I just started unscrewing screws and trying to pry things off.

    Does anyone know how this can be done?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I would think if you remove the front legs, secure the TWG tie downs, then you could stand the organ on end and hook the lower manuals through the opening.

    Jim

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    • #3
      22" ?? How is that even legal? Do you have stairs? Worse case, Both Laurel and Hardy and the Three Stooges have demo films on how to bring it in through an upper floor window...
      Tom in Tulsa

      Fooling with: 1969 E100, 1955 M3, 1963 M100, Leslie 720

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      • #4
        I've been on fully legal escalators narrower than that... Not everything was made recently, nor required to be removed due to current laws.

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        • #5
          Intellectually, I know that, but it is just so small... 8) Probably not just grandfathered but great-grandfathered!
          Tom in Tulsa

          Fooling with: 1969 E100, 1955 M3, 1963 M100, Leslie 720

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tpappano View Post
            Intellectually, I know that, but it is just so small... 8) Probably not just grandfathered but great-grandfathered!
            Hah! -and I think they might want to insist upon a paternity test for this elevator.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tpappano View Post
              22" ?? How is that even legal? Do you have stairs? Worse case, Both Laurel and Hardy and the Three Stooges have demo films on how to bring it in through an upper floor window...
              I don't know if it's legal or not, but it's an apartment building in San Francisco that was constructed in 1910. Back then, tenants were presumed to never need to go to the basement; just the manager and tradesmen would be using it. The elevator door on the first floor is 27" wide (although I'd have to remove the bronze "tongue" that latches the door to the jamb in order to get the organ into the cab, and then replace it once the organ was in it), but the elevator door in the basement is actually 44" wide, but made of two pieces that are hinged in the middle, and the half that's closer to the jamb has draw-bolts top and bottom, that secure it to the floor and ceiling. It's solid redwood, and weighs probably 120 pounds. In theory, those draw-bolts could be retracted and the whole 44" of door could be swung open, but I've lived here for 22 years (and managed the building for 14 of those years) and have never gotten the door to do that; it's just thoroughly stuck in place.

              There are 3 staircases that communicate between the ground floor and the basement (1 interior and 2 exterior) but both of them are narrow and have tight 90 or 180-degree turns. If the organ was made of say, styrofoam, and I didn't care about smacking it into the railings, I could probably manage to get it down using one of those staircases, but given that it weighs 300 lbs., and I don't want to bash it up, that's a pretty impractical scenario.

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              • #8
                If it is turned up on its side could it make it around the turns of the staircase? And are you needing to go down and not up? I took an M3 down a flight of stairs with an appliance dolly, it has a rubber belt/friction /roller arrangement that lets you smoothly go down stairs and the friction device carries a lot of the weight reducing the load on you. Perhaps with a helper in front to steer this might work.
                Tom in Tulsa

                Fooling with: 1969 E100, 1955 M3, 1963 M100, Leslie 720

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                • #9
                  Sounds like it would be a LOT less work to fix the two elevator draw bolts than to disassemble the Hammond.
                  Current organs: AV, M-3, A-100
                  Current Leslies: 22H, 122, 770

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by enor View Post
                    Sounds like it would be a LOT less work to fix the two elevator draw bolts than to disassemble the Hammond.
                    Much agreed!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by enor View Post
                      Sounds like it would be a LOT less work to fix the two elevator draw bolts than to disassemble the Hammond.
                      Fair enough. Trouble was, I had no idea how difficult it might be. Some keyboards (surprisingly, upright pianos) are designed for various elements to be removed quite easily. O didn't know if the Hammond was similar to that, or not. I'll try my luck with the draw-bolts before going to "plan B".
                      Thanks again!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tpappano View Post
                        If it is turned up on its side could it make it around the turns of the staircase? And are you needing to go down and not up? I took an M3 down a flight of stairs with an appliance dolly, it has a rubber belt/friction /roller arrangement that lets you smoothly go down stairs and the friction device carries a lot of the weight reducing the load on you. Perhaps with a helper in front to steer this might work.
                        Unfortunately, between the stairs being fairly narrow, and the 90-degree turns for the external staircases, there isn't enough room to lay it on its side. But good thinking, tho'!

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