Hammond M3 pedalboard conversion

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Hello I am a guitarist and not an organ player so I don't know where to start showiing that I have no idea what I'm talking about.</P>


. I thought it would be a great idea to add the ability to play a few simple bass lines with a pedalboard during my solo guitar set. I purchased a used pedalboard taken from an old Hammond M3 organ in great shape. There is a cord coming out of the pedalboard with no end. Is there a simple way to put an end on it and plug this into a bass amp or am I thinking all wrong and this needs a conversion. I am just trying to play some bass lines while playing the guitar. Can anyone help me I don't get any info doing a search but this can't be too original of an idea.</P>
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Thanks</P>


Corianman</P>

[Guest]

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i don't think anything you plug it in to will make any noise...that cord probably ran to the tone generator( i think)...which is what...er uuhhh generates tones[:P]</P>


You may want to look in to midi pedal boards..and a module...though they can get steep...</P>


yngwie malmsteen used a cool old pedal board i think from a synth...moogtaurus? not cheap at all though.</P>


hopefully i am wrong in your case though...and someone else can help you out.</P>


just put a bass player on the ground and step on them until they make the right notes.</P>

[Riverside]

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"just put a bass player on the ground and step on them until they make the right notes."</P>


Spoken like a true drummer!</P>

[Guest]

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Thanks..Haa....I tried the Bass player idea that's why I need a pedalboard as he got his feelings hurt during the stompin.</P>


I was told the tone generating apparatus was in the metal box of the Hammond pedalboard perhaps someone knows if that is true or not.</P>
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Thanks for the help!</P>


Corianman</P>

[Riverside]

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No, the part that makes the tone is NOT in the pedals themselves. That would be the tone-generator that everyone spends so much effort adoring.

[fredy2]

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The pedal board is just a set of switches. All the sound generation was in the organ itself.</P>


For your purpose you should get a MIDI pedal board and a suitable MIDI sound generator. Depending on what pitch you want, it may be possible to amplify such a MIDI device with your same bass amp... The pitch of whatever voice you select in the MIDI sound generator would need to be low enough to run through the bass amp or you might need another amp capable of the higher frequencies.</P>


The old EMU Proteus is a possible candidate generator to use with a MIDI pedalboard... It is easy to select voices... A vibraphone selection can be nice on the pedals for instance.</P>

[Hammond101]

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I'm also a guitarist that has a huge Hammond heart-on. I was in a band for years with a bass player that was handicapped, he had his right arm blown off for spite in a robery. He plays a Chapman stick one handed as his main bass instrument. He also plays keyboard. He used a set of midi pedals (Phatar or Fatar sp.) and an old Roland midi keyboardfor his bass lines while he played keys. It was quite good. Your main investment will be the pedals (controler) any decent midi keyboard or module that has an appropriate sound should work for you. </P>


I also engineer live sound. You are definately going to need a bass amp or a PA with subs or at least some good bass response to get a decent bass sound. Your guitar amp will most like be damaged if you run bass through it. Everyone is correct, those M3 pedals won't do jack unless connected to the Hammond they came with. </P>


Mike Rutheford of Genesis played Taurus pedals while playing guitar in live situations. That setup would shake the whole house. Quite cool for the day (70s). Many others have done the same thing so the concept is not new but it can take a few $$ to get set up. Roland makes a controler, the 13 note PK5A that would work for you with a midi keyboard or module. They cost about $500 street price.</P>


H101</P>

[Riverside]

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I happen to have an Emu Proteus - send me a PM if you're interested. Way less than $500. </P>
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(Apologies if I broke forum rules - I'm not very smart, but I'm justtrying to help a brother out.)</P>

[toasterDude]

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...Depending on how technically savvy you are, get a load of THIS option for M3 pedals:</P>


http://modularsynthesis.com/basspedals/basspedals.htm</P>


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...I'd say that's worth stepping on bass player or two, what what?!? -TD</P>

[Hammond101]

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THIS option for M3 pedals:</P>


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TD,</P>


Cool lookin' contraption. Pedals are from a 100 series spinet not an M3. There are 13 of them (nice, well kind'a), the M3 has only 12. If I where to do somthing like this I would definately use a full octive set from a later model likeshown in your pic.</P>


Best,</P>


Rich</P>

[Riverside]

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Hey Rich - Use the 32 from your RT-3 and plug it into my Emu Proteus!

[Hammond101]

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Rob,</P>


Now that would be a midi pedal board! Way too much work for me. I have no idea how to convert the contacts and build a controler.</P>


Rich</P>

[Riverside]

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Come on!</P>


Figureit out once - then repeat x31!</P>
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[Guest]

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wow. simply amazing.

[Guest]

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Thanks to all of you for the comraderie and the great discussion . Because of your helpI have looked at the Roland PK5 and may go that route,</P>


That Bass midi conversion you did TD is beyond my capabilites electronicallyunfortunately. I fix a few guitar amps and can buid the cabinets no problem but the computer and theory involved in your project is like brain surgery to me.</P>


101..... I do have a bass amp and a great sub woofer on my PA that I use for larger gigs and even a sub woofer extension that plugs into mymy small solo rig ( Shertler Unico with bass sub woofer) So that's not a prblem.</P>
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Thanks to all who replied. I appreciate the help!</P>
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CORIANMAN</P>