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    Hi. Anyone have one of these? I've read a lot of good things about 'em.. i.e. closest to a b3 internally, etc. OK so I don't see any output jacks on this. I am thinking of buying either a leslie OR one of those Motion Sounds leslie like cabs. Anyone have one? It seems to have output jacks which SHOULD give me the desired results when recording into protools right? Lots of question in this post sorry. I guess the main question is that do I need to somehow add an output jack? then please any other advice. thanks much.</P>
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    Eddie</P>

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    Plenty of M100 series owners on here!</P>


    A leslie will, as you must already know, set you back far more money than the M. There's nothing to beat it though. You can fit an output jack to the M, and if you do a search here, you'll find plenty of details on just how to do it. You could then route the organ sound through a leslie simulator, or add a rotary DSP effect in protools. It still won't sound like a leslie, though. You need to mike a leslie and capture the real sound, and there are many, many opinions on how this should be done.</P>


    Andy</P>
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

    Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
    Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
    Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
    Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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      Welcome, Eddie. I'm one of those M-100 (M-101) owners...and brand new to the whole organ thing. I'm in the same position as far as wanting a Leslie. For me it's gonna have to be a patient waiting game.
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      Heaven help me. I just found a very strange Yamaha beast about 2 miles from me.</p>

      Anyway, I had to do a lotta oiling and testing and more oiling and more testing before the tone generator bearings stopped howling...which was just yesterday. </p>

      I wish I could help ya on the output jack...but I'll be watching closely cuz I might want to do the same thing so I can route its output thru a mixer panel.I guess I'm gonna have to invest in some multi-track recording/editing software if I wanna get the organ and my electric bass together. I already have a Behringer mixer, although it's a small one. </p>

      Best regards,</p>

      </p>

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        a few options for an output:</P>


        taking the signal from the speaker wires:http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/LineOutFromASpinet</P>


        but the blurb at the bottom doesn't sound great (flat respons with dummy load). </P>


        If you don't want the internal speakerat all, remove the output tubes and make a new line out from the amp. ask JonC3 about this.Removing output tubes prevents that whole "tube amp with no load" problem.</P>


        If you get a real leslie and you hook up this method, you'll need the preamp pedal (for leslie 145/147)...or you get a leslie hookup kit with the oldschool leslie switches..I think both options will run you the same amount of cash. </P>
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          JonC3 are you out there?? [:)]</P>


          I'm really thinking of gettting the modern day leslie "Motion Sound" Reviews are great.. anyone have one? I'm curious since it has output jacks if it will record in stereo as I would like it without having to record from mics.. ??</P>
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            I've never tried a Motion Sound (not sure if you can get them in the UK) but I hear good things about them. It might be that they have pre-miked it and offer the mike outs ready for input to your mixer/PA. However, that does only give you one mike location, and takes away the flexibility that using your choice of mikes and your choice of positioning, to get the sound that YOU want.</P>


            Valve leslies shout and scream and OD beautifully. Transistor leslies have even more shout, but don't OD in the same way. I have a 760 and it bites! It's turned way down at home but I did turn it up when I bought it. Man, that was loud.</P>


            Andy</P>
            It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

            New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

            Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
            Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
            Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
            Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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              I still am leaning toward the motion sound but for argument sake, let's say I went with a real leslie. Which Modelbest suites me? My main purpose is for recording. I have a very small studio so it doesn't need to be a monster. Also it seems I'd need to buy a conversion kit for my m103 to leslie too right? thanks for any thoughts on this!</P>

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                if your main thing will be recording couldn't you get away with a simulation pedal?... since recording is generally a 2-d thing opposed to 3-d leslie sound sitting next to you?

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                  I would also consider this. I do enjoy collecting learning about really cool gear so that is why I'd prefer to get the "real" thing.</p>

                  Eddie</p>

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                    I have a 44W and it and the 45, and (I believe) the 145 have an input feature that allows you to use speaker output directly from the amp. There is a switch that routes singal through 16ohm or 8ohmor open. My M3 sends the signal fromthe black and green wires into pins 1 and six of the Leslie amp. Pins 3 and 4 are for house current, and 3-4 are for the rotor switch. On an M100, catch the output before it splits to go to the reverb amp. Good Luck[li]</P>


                    Lee</P>

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                      Hi I am there. You want to preserve the internal speakers operational or not?</p>

                      Jon</p>

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                        Not sure. I suppose it would be best to yes.

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                          The best way to get line out is to use the RCA socket at exp. pedal capacitor but you would get too much trebles. If you know how to use soldering iron simply open the swell capacitor can and short 680 pF capacitor there (connected to RCA socket).</p>

                          If you need higher output level (around 1V) you can take the signal from left 6V6, pin 5, of course through 100 nF/250V capacitor.</p>

                          Both methods preserve the internal speaker. If you don't want it simply remove both 6V6.

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                          Jon</p>

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                            Update - for those of you that care :)</p>

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                            I ended up buying a speakeasy device that made it very easy to hookup an output jack. I then bought a boss leslie emulator.</p>

                            I then wrote a song about my new organ. It's the deault song on my myspace page. I never said I could play the organ but please listen and give me some feedback.</p>

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                            www.myspace.com/eddielance</p>

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                            Eddie
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                              Re: My lovely new to me Hammond m-103

                              I saved a somewhat beleaguered M103 from a closing consignment furniture store Spring 07 and how fortunate was I to also locate a 22H cabinet selling cheaply at a thrift store. Then came the surprise at the cost of connector kits. As I have a one speed speaker (which is fine with me as I like Theatre organ sound best anyway) I will need a slightly less expensive at about $180 which is almost as much as my organ/speaker/cable purchases combined. Our family of M100 collectors has to have deep pockets sometimes. Good luck as a proud new owner. If you need assistance, Bill Brown is an excellent source.

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