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    Hi, All1 First Forum post - I just bought a Hammond E-111. I went and looked at it and it was in pretty good condition for it's age - couple of nicks and small scratches and two tone bars that do not work. The ownersaid it just needed it's contacts cleaned. That sounded reasonable. So I bought it and had moversmove it yesterday.. </P>


    There is a weird odor emitting from it now that it is in my home - I smelled nothing when I bought it.I am wondering if some oil that the organ uses spilled out onto the wood inside during th move and is causing the odor - If I can't eliminate the odor - I will have to sell it.</P>


    My first question I need help with: Anyone know if the Hammondspills it's oil if it emits a strange pugnent odor?Anyone know how to get rid this or any other source of a odor with out damaging the finish or internals?</P>


    second question - Does anyone know of a Service tech in the Hudson NH area that is familiar with E-111? Andwhat the rates might be?</P>


    Thanks!</P>


    E111 Jeff</P>

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    Did they keep it upright during the move? Has it been oiled recently? If no to the former and yes to the latter question, yes, some oil could have spilled out. Would it smell bad? I doubt it. Weird pungent odours immediately alert me to the possibility of something getting rather too warm. Definitely a possibility with any old organ, especially one with tubes and their associated high voltages.</P>


    Take the back off and try to locate the source of the smell. Then turn it on and see if the smell gets worse. Be very careful what you touch and sniff, as there are lethal voltages in several parts of the organ. Let us know what you find.</P>


    I'm not in the US but I can tell you that the rates charged by a tech would be pretty high - maybe more than the organ's worth, so most people on here and Hammondzone service their own instruments if they can. There's a lot of help out there, and joining the Yahoo Hammondzone group is a good idea, if you haven't already done so.</P>


    Andy</P>
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      Hi, Andy!</P>


      The movers did not keep it level going up twostairs. Actually stopped on the stairs. The organ was at an angle for about 35-45 seconds.It was also at an angle equal to the angle oftheir ramp for one totwo minutes. They said they had moved them before - I told them that their was oil in the organ and would have to be kept level. They didn't bring any special devices that could have made it easier on them. They became fatiged.</P>


      The organ emitted no odor when I bought it - It emitted the odor after they moved it - before I turned it on. The odor did not become any stronger that I could tell when I did turn it on. It seemed to work the same. It doesn't seem to smell like a hot electrical or electronic smell, it's more like a strange colone and some otherkind of odor. But going with what you said, part of the smellreminds me of when I was sawing some cedar wood andit burned a little from friction. </P>


      Iwould be very nervous poking around in the back. So I guess I must have been dreaming to think there might be a service guy that just likes his work andwouldn't break the bank..</P>


      PS I have seen your responses to other people in the past and remembered that and it was one reasons I decided to join the organforum..</P>


      E111 Jeff</P>
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        Jeff,</P>


        I think your E-111 may have a rodent infestation. Once disturbed the nests can smell pretty funky. Unplug it, take the back off and have a look. The critters may have built a nest in it. Lysol, Fabreeze and a vacuumcan work wonders. While in there check for chewed wiring etc. Cats sometimes have there way with Hammonds and that smells equally evil.</P>


        Best of luck with it,</P>


        H101</P>

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          Hi, Andy!</P>


          I washed the E-111 cabinet with Murphy's wood soap. That greatly reduced the strange colone fabreeze type odor - which leads me to believe that the movers pads must have been soaked with colone and some weird fabreeze spray and it got all over the wood cabinet. There is still a stale smell and a machine shop oil smell. I pulled out the organ and took off the back. One cobweb on the big bass speaker and a solid layer of dust. When facing theinside from the backside, there is a electric motor on the top left hand shelf. It sits on a metal bracket along with a big cap or something. This bracket is soaked with oil. I managed to get a paper tissue in there and wiped some of it up. The tissue then stunk with the smell you might sample in a machine shop that is drilling through metal. I don't know how else to describe it. I would like to clean this -some of the oil spilled onto the wood, I think that is where the pugnent smell is coming from. Do you know if that metal thing next to the motor (and looks like it is hooked to the motor) is a cap or has lethal energy in it?</P>


          Nothing in there looks familiar - I mean I can see there are tube amps, and bundles of wires and what looks like a string of resitors that are all connected to a bus wire and I don't know where the other side goes. </P>


          I don't have the money or space for a leslie, has anyone ever hooked up a leslie sim that could be played through the organs own speakers?</P>


          I guess this is long enough. </P>


          Jeff</P>
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            Wipe up the excess oil by all means and, while you're in there, you can gently remove some dust and the cobwebs. If the organ's running quietly, then you don't need to oil it yet. Get a tube of Hammond oil on line - easy to get - and oil the organ in a year's time.</P>


            The silver can near the motor may well be a cap, can't remember the E's exact layout. To guard against shock, turn the organ off but leave it plugged in for an hour or so, then unplug and carry out the work. As always, still be careful. You may need to get more familiar with the works of your E in the future but there's lots of help here if you do.</P>


            As far as running a leslie sim goes, do a search for 'effects loop' here, as the subject's been discussed quite a few times. In the meantime, start saving, move some furniture to leave a leslie-sized space, and look for a cheapmodel 125 for starters. Nothing sounds like a real leslie, and you'll want one some day! [:)]</P>


            Andy</P>
            It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

            New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

            Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
            Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
            Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
            Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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