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    I have considered the purchase of a TWG Hammond for my retirement organ. Which console models had those weird looking french legs on them and what were those style numbers?

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    Yes, considered by some to be the ugliest Hammonds ever built. the A102 &amp; M103. I think the M143 was a bent leg French Provincial also. </P>


    H101</P>

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      <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The H-133 is French Provincial. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>In addition was able find to two E-series: E-133 and E-333 with that same style cabinet.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
      Have: Hammond 340212 Elegante
      Had: Hammond T-311 and 333114 Colonnade
      Never will have: Laurens Hammond 350 w/ 2 - 751 Leslies

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        [quote user="Mark Pratt"] those weird looking french legs[/quote]</P>


        G'day Mark,</P>


        "Those weird looking French Legs" are known in the furniture trade as "Cabriole" because of they way they are turned. This cabinet design applies to Hammond models A102, M103 and all others with the suffix "33" at the end of the model number.</P>


        The A102 may have a reputation as the ugliest Hammond ever, buttry and tell that to someone with a house full of seriously expensive antique Queen Anne furniture.[^o)]</P>


        Compared to some of the cabriole leg grand pianos I've seen in my time the A102 is quite a good look.</P>


        Shalom,</P>


        Ian</P>
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          I've always liked the A102...for the right style house it would be IDEAL.....sadly most A102's end up as parts sources/TWG donators for B3 conversions, but there is a good supply of A102's out there as the ones that ARE out there are generally in top notch shape....so in actuality you have a better chance of getting a well maintained or at least lightly used Hammond by specifically looking for that model.





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            Thanks ya'll,</P>


            I did look at an A-102 and it was really ugly. I was going to buy a MI43 but now I'm glad that deal fell through. No one mentioned the D and RT 32 pedal models so I guess that means those didin't have weird legs. If I get a Hammond it will be a 32 pedal model. </P>

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              Mark,</P>


              If you like the Hammond sound, you are correct, none of the 32 pedal note Hammonds have french provincial cabinets. The D100 and RT series are built in a church style "C" cabinet but just a bit wider for the wider pedal board. Being an RT3 owner myself, I have to say they are very nice instruments. The addition of the pedal solo unit makes the pedals a little more versitile. The C style cabinet is my favorite Hammond look. There are pics of my RT3 in the forum photo gallery.(among others)</P>


              The D152/155 probably makes a better home unit with its built in sound system. The RT/2/3 works if you have the room for a tone cab and or a Leslie. These have no built in power amp or speakers.</P>


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                I suppose on advantage on those weird legs is that you have a little more room to swing your legs when you dismourt. Anyway, what does the pedal solo feature do on the D and RT? Do those models have anything else that isn't on a normal B or C? I play mostly classical music but I'm considering a Hammond for the longevity and readily available service in my area.

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                  The RT models are basically the same feature wise as other full size Hammond consoles built at the same times. For example: RT=B, RT2=B2 &amp; RT3=B3. They all had the same running change upgrades in vibrato/chorus and percussion. The RT pedal solo adds 32' Bourdon, 32' Bombarde, 16' through 4' solo and a combined 2' &amp; 1' solo stop. This section also has a seperate volume control (knob) that allows you to mix pedal solo with standard bass drawbars and a mute tab. The console retains the 16' &amp; 8' bass brawbars. All this with the 32 note pedal board. If you plan on making drawbar changes on the fly the very late 2 series and all of the 3 series would be the most desireable with "smooth" drawbars.</P>


                  I would think the pedal solo unit would be a great feature for classical music. The 32' stops are thunderous and the solo stops make pedal runs more interesting. All of this is the same for the D100 that again has a built in sound system. Many would argue that the Hammond is not a model for classical music. Your choice of a Hammond for reliability seems to be a good one to me. My RT3 came from a woman, a professional organist, who used it at home for her practice instrument &amp; she played the best classical and pipe organs in Southern California. She could of had anything she wanted at home I would guess short of a pipe in her single story home but chose the RT3.</P>


                  Another thing to consider is that these consoles are at the bargain end of the Hammond price scale. Sometimes sold for $1000 or less with a tone cab. There are many posts and treads about the RT models on board. Search around I'm sure there is a lot more I haven't covered.</P>


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