Hello all. I have just arranged to pick up a T-524c. I dont know much about this organ. The owner said that it was working over a year ago. He does not want to turn it on b/c it has not been oiled. Should I go ahead and buy this organ? Does anyone have information on this organ? When i move it i want to put in sideways in the back of my for explorer. Is it ok to lay it on the side? </p>
Shouldn't be any problem turning it on after a year. Might squeal a little indicating oiling is needed, but that's all. $50 for a working T500 sounds good to me, that's about £30 in 'real money'.</p>
No problem laying it on its back. All my T's have travelled that way with no problems.</p>
Andy
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It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
I Got my own T-500 for free, and Andy and others helped me get it going. Now I'm looking forward to "passing it forward" too!</P>
I love this beast, any help you need, ask away! </P>
I bought the service manual, and I'mstill fiddling with bits and pieces. I confess I'm one of those types who modified his T, possibly to Andy's horrification... </P>
....but whether you modify or keep it pure, there are a lot of us who are enthusiastic about the T's too. Look up Frank Carvalho, I can't recall others off the top of my head.</P>
There's a nice pic on the Hammondzone forum of Andy at the BBC with his Hammond T back in the... possibly early seventies... and surrounded by other synths and Keyboard paraphernalia, so he's got a long track record with this particular instrument!</P>
Not horrified at all Brendon. I was going to do all Carsten's mods, but I got listening to some very old tapes I did on my first T500 - that's the one in the photo- back in 1973 and thought the sound was individual, so I've kept it mainly stock. Wouldn't mind doing the tube pre-amp though, just to warm it a little.</p>
Andy
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It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
There's another thread you've no doubt seen where the chaps are discussing the mig-T pre-amp. One of them seems to have tracked down a source of the boards in the UK.</P>
I was surprised by my local amp repair guy whohas inherited an R-100, and he says he has made up the Mig-T himself and I can borrow it some time for a try. He says its really cheap to make and he's got more of the valves handy...</P>
I suspect an organist of your pedigree probably has a number of differenthammonds (and a variety of others?)about anyhow. It would be silly to change the Tthen anyhow! </P>
I'm about to commence playing for a funeral director, so I'm resurrecting my long forgotten hymns, though I'm really a seventies exploratory rock muso by flavour. It all depends what you play on the organ as to whether it does the trick or not.</P>
I've done carsten's mods, and I feel that perhaps it has come out a bit bottom heavy.... though going as far as recalibrating th TG would remedy that. As Flanders and Swann said "There's always work for the working man to do!"</P>
I half own a C3, which is now at church. It has a PR-40 but no leslie. It is so punchy andpercussive! Fantastic for rhythm playing in blues and rock.</P>
Even after the mods I did, the T has a more mellow attack than the C3. The question is how far to pursue the matter and when to accept the instrument for its own unique characteristics! It sounds fantastic, both before and after the mods. Part of me wants to turn it into a mini C3 but there will come a time where further changes are a vanity, a mere blowing in the wind to get ecclesiastical about it.</P>
Ok thanks. Now for the other one (T-584) that powers on no sound may have to have the contact cleaned? I think....not sure so I need to use a contact cleaner, im in the united states.....where could i find a good contact cleaner...do I need on with lubricant in it?
ok i have the organ at home now. The thing spinning vibrato scanner is noisy i put some oil in because it had not been on in 2 or three years. The drawbars are not all working and some are very faint. Where do i go from here?
The plastic housing of the drawbars will break down eventually if you spray them with contact cleaner, so it's really best to disassemble them.</P>
It's easy peasy.</P>
I'm trying to remember the address of the site that will show you how to get in to them. </P>
Ah. This is it: http://www.keyboardpartner.de/hammond/t-service.htmthere are some nice pics you can link to, should help. This is THE Carsten meyer T series modification site! Kon Zissis hasdocumented additional mods also, they can be found on Hammondzone, oron another thread here... http://organforum.com/forums/4/21442/ShowThread.aspxone of the chaps on this thread has also done the carsten mods and taken extra photos, his ownwebsite has them clearly labelled and you can see some things better than in carsten's own photos, if you can find this guy'ssite.</P>
However, Take the back off the organ, the top, the metal cover from the circuit boards, and keep unscrewing things until you get to the little boxes with the drawbars in them. It's not hard! I'm a technical pleb and I still found it easy!</P>
THEN undo each of those, record which colour coded wire belongs to each drawbar so you can reassemble them in the right order. ALSO take note of which ones overlap each other etc, so you don't end up with a drawbar tangle when you put them back in (some of my drawbars are tangled and they pull the next bar out slightly when drawn!) anyhow, undo the things and note how they work. There's two little knobs on the end of the bar which rub against a whole lot of contact bars. These all need a good clean! Perhaps use a little contact cleaner on a cotton bud. Do only one bar at a time so you don't get lost, and so you can test their operation as you go. they should change tones fairly smoothly and without crackle.</P>
According to various expertseither white lithium grease or even vaseline can be used to lubricate theparts, but I'm not sure if its necessary...or not. I also wonder what would happen if the lubricant was to get all over the contacts.</P>
If you go into itslowly enough you'll work out a method of dissassembly and reassembly and get a clear understanding of their operation.</P>
Like I've already said, it's not hard, and it's a confidence booster!</P>
Impress your friends with your mechanical aptitude!</P>
I've just posted the T-500 service manualonline, too,links to it can be found on the same thread I directed you to for Kon's report.</P>
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