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  • #1

    What do you suggest ?

    Hi to you all...I'm contemplating doing my bit to entertain folks a "bit"older than me!!!.and I don't like (want ) a keyboard!!. I'm sure you understand !! LOL 😀...
    I currently play an HS8 ...but obviously I can't trudge that around to it be old folks homes !!...SO !..what do you all suggest that I purchase, bearing in mind that I wish to use my Ram packs as set up in the HS8...?also bearing in mind thav I will be doing two venue's a day !!(possibly)
    So the instrument has to be portport,lightweight etc.
    I won't entertain a keyboard...ya know what I mean !!
    Many thanks for reading,and I look forward to all your help and suggestions.
    Happy playing..🎹😀👍.










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    If you want to use your HS8 packs, that sort of limits you to the HS8!

    If you can do without your HS8 packs and setups, there are smaller and lighter Yamahas available for free, like the HC and HE models. Spend a little and you get into the smaller EL series and the smaller Rolands. Perhaps the smaller Orlas.

    FWIW, the most popular entertainer in the home where my mother in law is resident (where almost all have some degree of dementia) is a man who brings in a ukulele and sings. Another popular artiste takes in a violin and plays classical, to backing tracks. They usually don't want anything complex. If you can give them an hour of 'oldies', that's all they really want to hear.

    Personally, I'd suggest you bite the bullet and get a decent keyboard and a small keyboard amp, but you've already said 'no'. Other than the smaller organs, I can't think of any other suggestions.
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

    Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
    Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
    Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
    Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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    • #3
      Clearly, dragging an HS-8 around is out of the question. So my suggestion would be to adapt what you have learned on the organ and get a cheap Tyros and PA with maybe MIDI pedals. Not as difficult as you might suppose, as the Tyros is straightforward enough to work with. I'm just speaking from experience and using the Tyros as an example, there are other instruments to consider. But the point is, some sort of keyboard is the best way forward.
      Organs: Yamaha D-85, Technics U90 Pro, Wersi Helios W2S, 2x Yamaha HS8's.
      Keyboards: Roland E-70, Yamaha Tyros 3.
      Retired: Technics K700.

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      • #4
        If your dreaded "keyboard" choice can be split and will also support the pedals on a 3rd channel, you almost have an organ. If you're playing a late '80's Yamaha, then you have probably already made yourself comfortable with non-organ sounds, which is probably the biggest drawback to using a non-organ. I play an Atelier, which is one of the best balances between real organ sounds and excellent orchestral and band sounds. But the Technics and Yamaha organs (I have had one of each) can do the same thing. I'm referring to models a bit newer than yours, namely the G-1 and the AR-100. But both are heavy and the Yamaha doesn't even split apart.

        A Roland AT-15 has a good complement of sounds (provided you save them on pistons for quick access) and separates into two sections, each around 50 pounds. I cannot imagine you doing any better than that. And you realize of course that if you require 1.) an organ, and 2.) NOT a keyboard - that this pretty much compels the selection of SOME model of organ. The 15 is the lightest and smallest you can go with Roland and I know of no others that even approach that brand when it comes to diminuation. Maybe the Yamaha D-deck? Bet the top section is heavier than 50 lbs, though. The Roland AT-350c is similar in weight and bulk but far more expensive and not really much better except for getting a better drawbar organ; mostly of interest to Hammond players. Well, the AT-100 is what probably replaced the AT-15 and will be similar in features and weight. And price. And it has drawbars.

        But I also play those homes and as far as I've noticed, the only advantage of humping an organ into one of them is that you'll be the only one doing so. I often did a show with a single female vocalist and we did about half of them on a Roland AT-30 organ and the other half on a Yamaha PSR-3000 arranger. I just held chords on the left side of the arranger, but played the organ properly. Frankly, I was probably the only one that could tell the difference. And if I'm perfectly honest, what with the sophisticated modern accompaniments (percussion, horns, guitars, etc.) AND singing back-up harmony through the arranger's harmonizer, I probably did a better job on the Yamaha.

        It is easy to get our personal preferences in the way of efficiency so consider Andy's comments. The most important thing about those gigs has little to do with what you carry into the room. They are just so dang grateful that you're willing to give of your time to give them an hour of enjoyable live entertainment. As a much younger man, I remember hearing a very good singer do a worship service using a Korg M-1 keyboard and the original Alesis HR-16 drum machine, crude stuff from the 1980's. And this was probably in the late '90's when far better equipment was available. To this day, that was one of the best things I ever attended. It was the talent of the artist that made it so. I carried a non-working rig into a senior facility one time. Missing a proprietary power supply or some such foolishness. I ended up doing the gig on their out-of-tune spinet piano. They were just as glad that we came. So don't let the equipment keep you from entertaining.
        Roland Atelier AT-90s, AT-80s, AT-70, 30, and 15. Roland VR-760 combo
        Yamaha S-90, Kurzweil PC-3x, Casio Privia PX-330, Roland E-80, G-70, BK-5, Leslie 760, 820
        Moved on:
        Allen 3MT/Hauptwerk, Technics GA1, Yamaha HX1, AR80, numerous Hammonds, including 2 M's, an L, 2 A-100's, XP-2, XM-1/1c, & an XK-3. Roland Atelier AT-30, 60r, 80, & 20r(2 units), and a slew of Leslies (147, 142, 760, 900, 330).
        Korg Triton Le-61, Casio Privia PX-310 & 110, and Kurzweils: PC-2x, SP-88, Pro-III, K1000

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        • #5
          Many many thanks to all for all the advice...it really is sincerely appreciated...I'm now sincerely considering the purchase of an HE 8... possibly deconstructing it,using auto rythems...and separate swell pedal...and using a 50 watt amp.
          I am also considering mounting the actual "keys" on an X stand...any comments and or recommendation's would be appreciated.
          Many thanks for reading...

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          • #6
            Purchase? Should be free or thereabouts for an HE8. Don't pay out too much!
            It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

            New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

            Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
            Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
            Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
            Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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            • #7
              Hi Andy,many thanks for your latest feedback....so do you think that it is a feasible option to de-construct an HE 8 So as to make transportation far less a problem ?
              Also,as a ball park figure,have you any ideas on the maximum amount of money(ISH) I should be spending.
              Very great full for your input.
              I had reason for visiting a care home recently... it was very saddening to see all of the in care people just not doing anything...I asked if it would be possible for me to play a bit of "singalong" oldies to which I was told I would be most welcome anytime,also they are in communication with other nearby care homes that would only be to glad for me to visit.
              So,if anyone reading this piece has an old Yamaha HE or the like that they no longer need,please drop me a line(pm)
              Thanks for reading.
              Regards.. Chris

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              • #8
                How much is it worth? Zero. How much should you pay for it? As little as possible, I can remember being given an HE4 maybe fifteen years ago - free.

                They're very light, and may well go in a medium sized hatchback. They're also basically plastic! Not sure whether or not the top section comes off.
                It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

                New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

                Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
                Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
                Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
                Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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