Trying to record some tracks using power tracks pro audio with my Roland at 900 and the computer soft synth combined as a sound source onto audacity.
It seems only the Roland records but not the dxi sounds.
Can anyone shed light on this?
Thanks.David.
Well the organ is plugged into the mini audio jack and is fine, can't understand why the computer's built in sound card isn't recording in audacity.Running windows 10.
Not familiar with the way Pro-Tools does things, but you need to setup 2 audio tracks with 1 track for the organ (Mini jack) input and another for the internal soft synth. (When you make your final track (After editing if required) you will be able to merge the 2 tracks together)
I'm assuming that what you want to do is record the organ's audio while at the same time driving an internal soft synth in your computer via MIDI/USB, and you want to record that sound at the same time.
It depends on whether or not your computer's sound chip, and Audacity for that matter, is capable of handling two sound sources at the same time. I'm not 100% sure that either will do this and in any case you'll have issues with latency. The organ's sound should be recorded instantly, but it will take a specific amount of time for the computer to process the MIDI input and produce the actual audio from the soft synth.
If you can record the two things simultaneously on separate tracks in Audacity, you can then match up the displaced audio and then merge the tracks.
I regularly mix organ/keyboard/piano with virtual sounds but I don't record them simultaneously. If you use a DAW rather than Audacity, you have the option of recording MIDI and Audio at the same time from the organ, then replaying the MIDI track to drive the soft synths or VST Instruments. Or you could simply play the organ in live, then play it back and play the soft synth live and record that (you'll need low latency for this, of course.).
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
Hi Andy,
I have now discovered that audacity will not record at all in midi mode one,which uses the (Roland) gs sound generator Ch 1-16.In mode two the midi mode is set up using the panel voices midi ch 1-4 and 5-16 as gs (with a drum ch and manual percussion Ch.
However, Audacity will only record the panel voices(upper,solo,lower,pedal and drums/percussion).
As I mentioned previously I'm using Power Tracks Pro Audio as a sequencer.
I'm stumped! David.
Maybe I don‘t see the whole picture... But how about routing the Audio of the Computers Midi to the Aux input of the organ and recording the organs output (incuding the Computers Midi Audio that was fed into the organ) with the Audio In of the computer?
Playing Hammond Aurora Classic & XE2, Hohner E3, Roland G800 & AT500.
Does Audacity actually record MIDI? I though it was just audio.
How about this?
Record the song using MIDI and audio at the same time in Power Tracks. If it can't do that, you may need a DAW that can.
Then replay the MIDI track again on Power Tracks, driving the soft synths and recording their audio at the same time.
Finally add any required digital effects, master and mix the audio tracks down to one stereo pair. Trim and normalise as usual.
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
Well,there you go, another senior moment right there!
Power Tracks will indeed record audio in fact it gives you the option of saving to audio after recording a midi track.In fact I'm not using soft synth as I previously stated but working with the Atelier's panel and internal GS sound source.
It's just that I got used to PT/Audacity when I owned various Tyros models.
Thanks Andy for help.
David.
Record to MIDI first time around, using Power Tools. Play that back using the panel voices on 1-4 and record the audio. Then play back again using the GS voices on 5-16, recording them. You can repeat that as many times as you like, building up a bigger and bigger sound, before mixing to stereo.
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
Yes, I'm on now; still can't figure out why Audacity will only record 1-4 and not 5-16.
Now I need to discover whether all my midi tracks in power tracks can be transferred into audio.Onwards and upwards.....
Hi Andy,
Can't fathom out why all the midi tracks in a song can't be rendered to audio in one hit?
Tried that and only the panel voices 1-4 rendered.Odd?
As I said (I think!) before, record from the organ into PT using MIDI. You'll end up with four discrete MIDI tracks (you can be crafty and do any tidying up or editing as required at this point!). Play that back using 1-4, so the Roland plays back using panel voices, and while it's playing back, record to audio.
Now reassign one or more of the tracks to 5-16 as you wish, adding any bank select and programme change messages etc as required. I'd play them back one at a time, recording the audio each time. That way I end up with lots of audio tracks that I can then balance, add effects to and mix down. Doing everything in one hit is quicker, sure, but also very limiting in that what you record is fixed and unmixable.
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
I'm recording track by track from the atelier into power tracks.
Tracks 1-4 will be rendered ok,but for some reason,the GS tracks won't render to audio.
I've tried both singularly and collectively as you suggested with no joy.I may have to compromise and resort to using the dxi card to make up the tracks,but tbh the're not up to much compared to the Roland's.
Then PT crashed and I lost a lot of work!
If PT is playing back MIDI and sending it out on MIDI channels 5-16, individually or collectively, and you can hear the resulting sound through the organ's speakers, then there's no reason why it shouldn't appear at the line outputs that are connected to the computer's audio inputs. So PT should record it. Or am I missing something?
Just a thought. If you use the multiple playback/record technique, you can of course send the MIDI data to channels 1-4 as many times as you like, altering the panel voices as required. The panel voices are higher quality than the GS voices. Is there something in the GS soundset that you really need, some 'oddball' voices, perhaps?
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
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