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  • Yamaha FS50 and leslie speaker

    We have purchased a leslie 705 and cannot get it to work with yamaha FS50 . Is there any way of disconnecting the organ speakers to make the leslie work? Thanks anyone for your help Mike.

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    If I remember correctly, I'm not totally sure that you'll get it to work at all.</P>


    I'm sure the FS50 is a multi channel organ (two channels, I think, that are basically left and right stereo). It has no leslie but an electronic tremolo system that 'spins' the flute sounds between the channels. Other sounds like brass, strings, percussion etc are also spread out across those two channels.</P>


    The leslie 705 is also two channel, but different. One stationary channel and one rotary channel. Now you'll probably see the problem you face. How do youseparate outthe flutes to go through the rotary channel in the leslie 705 on their own, while mixing the non-flute sounds from both channels into the one stationary channel of the 705?</P>


    On a few organs of this era, the Kawai SR5 for example, the designers thought of all of this and pre-wired everything so that you just plugged in a leslie and it worked. Unless Yamaha have done the same and equipped the FS50 with a proper 11-pin leslie socket at the back, I think you'll be out of luck. You'd be into very major modifications of the FS50's pre-amps, mixers and main amps.</P>


    There is a 'leslie' that would work, the model 520, but it has no leslie rotors at all. It's just a two channel straight amplifier system packed into a leslie 720 cabinet - designed to work with the 720 for four channel operation, or for wiring up to a 2-channel electronic tremmed organ like the FS50. It's rather rare and you might as well plug the FS50 into a decent stereo amp system.</P>


    This is a problem that confronts many an owner with this type of organ, you're not alone!</P>


    Like I say, I think I'm right about this, but there may be a Yamaha expert lurking around who knows better! Also seek out any Electone groups on the net for advice.</P>


    Andy</P>
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      Hi Andy</P>


      The FS50 has an eleven pin socet and we have connected to that.What are your thoughts</P>


      Kind Regards Mike.</P>

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        G'day Mike,</P>


        Your FS50 has 2 tone cabinet sockets - an 11 pin for Leslie &amp; a 13 pin for Yamaha TM Cabs. Your 705 Leslie is an 11 pin 2 channel cabinet and connection to the organ is merely a plug &amp; play excercise, ie no kit required, just the 11 pin cable. If at the organ console you select tremolo/chorus for your "combination" settings they will automatically be sent to the 2 speed roto drum in the cab with fast/slow change controlled at the organ;similarly if you select symphonic chorus for the reed/string sounds they will end up in the stationary speakers in the cab. The 705 Lesliesends all bass frequencies also to the stationary channel. Having said all that you will still hear sound thru the organ's speakers, as there is no int/extspeaker tab on the organ. The only way I can think of to solve this is to plug a phono jack into the organ's headphone socket.</P>


        Hope this helps,</P>


        Cheers,</P>


        Ian</P>
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          See, you were in luck with the socket! Darned clever, these designers. (I am one![;)]) I knew there was a Yamaha socket but not about the leslie socket. Never to late to learn something, thanks Ian!</P>


          Just a thought. Ian, do you know if they did what we did at Kawaiand allowed for the addition of the 515 leslie 'top box' for the 2nd straight channel to give 'stereo' amplification to the straight voices? We put on 2 11-pin sockets with a switch to allow 1 or 2 leslies and/or top boxes, but some organs' 11-pin sockets were wired to do this with a simple Y adaptor lead.</P>


          Andy</P>
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          <P mce_keep="true"></P>
          It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

          New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

          Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
          Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
          Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
          Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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            [quote user="andyg"]


            but some organs' 11-pin sockets were wired to do this with a simple Y adaptor lead.</P>


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            G'Day Andy,</P>


            Yamaha was a member of the Y adaptor club with the FS/FX and D65 thru E75 series - worked really well with 715/515, 415/515 &amp; 720/540.</P>


            Cheers,</P>


            Ian</P>
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            Hammond X77GT & Leslie 77P
            Lowrey C500 & Leslie 720/540
            Hammond T524 & Leslie 710
            Gulbransen Theatrum & Leslie 700
            Yamaha EL90T

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              Ian ,Good Morning.</P>


              The leslie is working perfectly on you advice to insert the earphones jack You are an officer and a gentleman,</P>
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              Kind Regards</P>
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              Mike.</P>

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