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  • I can see how it would use up bandwidth, but so far I've never really midi'd. Isn't that interesting though that there isn't much call for the expressive features.

    Is it a coincidence that its called an SQ-80 (CS80?) Everyone drools about the CS80 and I don't for one second blame anyone for that. So what happened to expressiveness with keyboard? Sanitized like all else as people submerge their sensitivty to art? Maybe Marc will comment on that!? Marc? Macro social thoughts kindly?

    I found this a couple days ago... ever hear of the movie LEGEND? With Tom Cruise and Mia Sara. Lovely movie. Here is an SQ-80 reproduction of one of the soundtrack parts http://goo.gl/IXJlw - I know the soundtrack well and this is a great reproduction. Lots of aftertouch niceness! Don't people fall all over themselves for Van Gellis? Maybe people are too unable to open themselves to expression and sensitivity these days. Too much difficulty in life itself.

    Originally posted by keyman2 View Post
    Polyphonic Aftertouch? That's sure to get Marc Brasse's attention, if he's not too busy with his new all-in-wonder setup... It does tend to use up a bit of MIDI bandwidth - though not a big deal if you don't use MIDI. There doesn't seem to be that much call for these expressive features - some might even consider it a gimmick, like the infrared position sensors on the Roland synth gear. The fingered vibrato feature on the upper manual of the E series and solo on the D-85 is pretty progressive, cheaper than individual velocity or the after-touch found in the CSY.
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    • Originally posted by keyman2 View Post
      B.T.W. how's your custom panel coming along?
      Well, here's the first cut... just needs a small tweak on the slider length - the slider isn't seated in the photo

      <a href="http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7540/17h2.jpg" target="7540/17h2.jpg"><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img189/7338/6twn.jpg" style="border:1px solid black;"></A>
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      • Wouldya looky there! Nice.
        1962 A102 - Marshall powered 1965 Leslie 251 - 1955 M3 that is for sale
        Emerson-Smith-Dennerlein-Jobson-Walsh-(Jon) Lord enthusiast and typical rock-hack player.

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        • - - - Updated - - -

          The new panel looks great, you're going to have the first professional looking mod of them all!

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          • Yes the CNC guy does tremendous work I see. Such precision, its great to see it in hand after being on screen for.. 2 years?

            Ah yes, I forgot about that first soundtrack. Always liked the second one better.

            I admit wondering about an Ensoniq board triggering the top manual on the E50 for Polyphone Aftertouch, but quickly discounted the thought!
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            • Just read they've got a new MIDI protocol in the works called 'HD MIDI', it's going to provide better resolution, expression and various additional features... it's already 6 years since they started so don't feel too bad about the 2 years it took to manifest your panel.

              Originally posted by mseven View Post
              I can see how it would use up bandwidth, but so far I've never really midi'd. Isn't that interesting though that there isn't much call for the expressive features.

              Is it a coincidence that its called an SQ-80 (CS80?) Everyone drools about the CS80 and I don't for one second blame anyone for that. So what happened to expressiveness with keyboard? Sanitized like all else as people submerge their sensitivty to art? Maybe Marc will comment on that!? Marc? Macro social thoughts kindly?

              I found this a couple days ago... ever hear of the movie LEGEND? With Tom Cruise and Mia Sara. Lovely movie. Here is an SQ-80 reproduction of one of the soundtrack parts http://goo.gl/IXJlw - I know the soundtrack well and this is a great reproduction. Lots of aftertouch niceness! Don't people fall all over themselves for Van Gellis? Maybe people are too unable to open themselves to expression and sensitivity these days. Too much difficulty in life itself.

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              • Originally posted by M3me View Post
                Wouldya looky there! Nice.
                Thanks, I'm very happy with it!
                Too bad he took it back... hopefully to return with three!
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                • Panels Made

                  <P style="text-align:left;"> Roger here in Victoria Canada got these to me today. His shop is amazing - first visit today. Next to get the panels stained a good color , and lasercut some labeling into them. In the meantime, a couple test panels that he produced can be used to begin wiring the slide pots. Also will need to make a frame on which to mount the panels, and I think it'd be cool ifthe frame could swing backwards so the panels could be hidden under the lid... </P>

                  <P align=right><a href="http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6105/30vx.jpg" target="1"><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img827/6658/s8i3.jpg" style="border:1px solid black; margin-left:40px"></A><BR>
                  <a href="http://imageshack.us/a/img20/3654/vkdp.jpg" target="3"><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img23/9262/2d23.jpg" style="border:1px solid black; margin-left:40px"></A><BR>
                  <a href="http://imageshack.us/a/img32/9297/1lnx.jpg" target="2"><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img19/6052/eu5u.jpg" style="border:1px solid black; margin-left:40px"></A></P>
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                  • Wow, nice to see this come from concept to physical parts...won't be long now!

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                    • Cool how you aligned the grain of all 3 pieces for the picture.
                      1962 A102 - Marshall powered 1965 Leslie 251 - 1955 M3 that is for sale
                      Emerson-Smith-Dennerlein-Jobson-Walsh-(Jon) Lord enthusiast and typical rock-hack player.

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                      • The CNC guy is really attentive, so he made that possible. He didn't mention the grain continuity when I picked them up, but there it is. He also gave me a couple panels that weren't "up to his specs", but one could easily be used. It's such a pleasure to work with people who like their work.
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                        • Really nice work, neighbour! I don't really have much to add to this thread at the moment, but I kinda wanted to celebrate. We got an E70 for the studio today!

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                          • Congrats Europanaut! (JB??) If it is you, I'm also dr funk on PRW!

                            Frank
                            Hammond C3 & Leslie 122, Yamaha E70, Lowrey MX1

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                            • Yes, congrats Europanaut! I see from your video you're already enjoying the incredible sound..

                              I'll try not to be envious that you phoned the seller before (and likely not long before) I did! At least its on Vancouver island... plus I don't have the room... plus I don't "need" another Electone... trying to look at the bright side
                              Last edited by mseven; 07-23-2013, 02:15 PM.
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                              • Thanks guys. It's pretty exciting. Yes Frank, Jim here from PRW.

                                mseven. The weird thing is, I didn't even find it using my usual search terms, one of my fb friends let me know about it. Even then, I didn't call for 6 hours or so. Just kind of looked at it, did other things, thought about it, looked at it again, etc. Then after we sealed the deal, he started getting tons of calls.

                                From the paperwork, it looks like I'm the third owner. A doctor, then an old folks home, now a crazy rock studio. It's leading an interesting life!

                                I haven't even played it yet. After transporting this monster, my entire body is sore. In addition to picking it up from the previous owner, we had to move out a Leslie, a Mellotron, a modular, two Hammonds, a Lowrey, and a marimba, just to get it into the studio. Then, after parking the E70, we had to move everything back in.

                                Ouch.

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