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  • Lowery TLOR-1 Leslie Tabs

    Can anyone explain the logic behind these, why they are laid out like this and how to use them? Why not just a fast/slow switch and an on off switch like the T200 Hammonds rather than four switches Is it a typical Lowery thing? I'll be hanging my 147 off it soon so will probably disconnect the cheese wheel. I'm just curious though!
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    Hammond A100, M102, X5, XB3, XB5, TTR-100,
    Lowrey DSO-1, H25-3, Yamaha E70, RA-100,
    Farfisa Compact Duo MK2, Vox Continental 300,
    Korg BX3 MK1, Leslie 145, 122.

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    • It looks like you have less switches than the Hammond I have. You only have Leslie On/Off. You'll have to switch speeds externally. The Leslie that I use with my Lowrey has a rocker on top for this. (And someone who didn't know what they were doing added a lamp dimmer control.)
    What's the AOO or AOC rocker?

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    • you795a
      you795a commented
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      Automatic Orchestra Control. That is what it is on my TLO-K.

  • #3
    I have a Lowery TLO-K and mine has the same tabs. It's been quite a while since I played it, but if I knew I was going to switch from the main to the Leslie when I was playing a song, I would have the Leslie running and then when I was ready, I would switch to the Leslie. That way the Leslie was already running at full speed. You can also add the main speakers to the Leslie by using the add main to Leslie. I think it creates a nice blend. The main Chorus overrides the Leslie which gives it a more classical or "churchy" sound. I thought it was always fun to play around with it. This is just my opinion though. Hope it helps.

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    • #4
      OK, Here goes!

      MAIN ORGAN LESLIE: Switches the sound from the stationary speaker to the leslie speaker. Note that bass sounds will still come through the main speaker.
      OFF LESLIE TREM. ON: Switches the leslie rotor from stop to fast.
      OFF MAIN CHORUS ON: With the sound switched to the leslie speaker and the OFF LESLIE TREM. ON switch set to OFF, it will switch the leslie rotor to slow speed. Note that switching the other switch to TREM will override this.
      ADD MAIN TO LESLIE: Does what it says it will, the sound will come through both main and leslie speakers.

      It therefore follows that if you have the sound coming through the leslie, and the MAIN CHORUS switch on, the OFF LESLIE TREM. ON switch should act as a slow/fast switch. No need for other controls.
      It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

      New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

      Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
      Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
      Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
      Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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      • myorgan
        myorgan commented
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        What Andy said! I have a DSO-1 with the same controls (except Wow-Wow). It is quite nice, as already stated, you have the option to switch the Leslie on and off at full speed, or to also hear the slow>fast or fast>slow option as well. In addition, you can mix the Main with Leslie for a combined sound.

        It's a little confusing as you get used to it, but once you're used to it, it's a nice control system.

        Michael

      • Drawbar Dave
        Drawbar Dave commented
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        I'm getting the hang of it and enjoying the practice! I will have the 147 added soon with its own independent MEE and speed switching and have the best of both worlds!

    • #5
      Originally posted by andyg View Post
      OK, Here goes!

      MAIN ORGAN LESLIE: Switches the sound from the stationary speaker to the leslie speaker. Note that bass sounds will still come through the main speaker.
      OFF LESLIE TREM. ON: Switches the leslie rotor from stop to fast.
      OFF MAIN CHORUS ON: With the sound switched to the leslie speaker and the OFF LESLIE TREM. ON switch set to OFF, it will switch the leslie rotor to slow speed. Note that switching the other switch to TREM will override this.
      ADD MAIN TO LESLIE: Does what it says it will, the sound will come through both main and leslie speakers.

      It therefore follows that if you have the sound coming through the leslie, and the MAIN CHORUS switch on, the OFF LESLIE TREM. ON switch should act as a slow/fast switch. No need for other controls.
      Thanks! Just what I needed. I wanted to make sure they were working as intended! It's a nice organ and will do enough TBO stuff until I find a real one. I paid £67 for it, but it came with a set of roll or carry dollies!

      I connected my 147 to it yesterday which took it to another level.
      Last edited by Drawbar Dave; 12-14-2019, 04:18 AM.
      Hammond A100, M102, X5, XB3, XB5, TTR-100,
      Lowrey DSO-1, H25-3, Yamaha E70, RA-100,
      Farfisa Compact Duo MK2, Vox Continental 300,
      Korg BX3 MK1, Leslie 145, 122.

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      • #6
        Pretty sure you meant jury-rigged. 😊

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      • #7
        Just going back to your first post, don't disconnect the internal leslie, but use/build a proper connector kit for the Leslie. Then you'd be able to mix the two. Fast Leslie plus slow internal Leslie is a great sound.

        I have to say that in my 63 years I've heard 'jury rigged' and 'jerry built' many times, but I've never heard anyone use the term 'jerry rigged'. As someone once said "So it's in the dictionary, that's just one person's opinion!" :D Maybe a regional thing?
        It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

        New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

        Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
        Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
        Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
        Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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        • KC9UDX
          KC9UDX commented
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          In true 2019 Internet age form:

          Say lovey.

      • #8
        Thanks for the advice Andy. I decided to keep the internal Leslie operational anyway now that I have serviced it and it is running quietly and efficiently. I plan to put a 26-1 style kit together so that the 147 can be switched separately from the internal Leslie and also have MEE switching. I am waiting for a female six pin socket to turn up so I did a temporary connection yesterday while I was doing a major service on the organ, just so I could hear them together. The mix of everything together as you describe is fantastic!
        I also added a line out with a simple pad taken off the headphone jack so that I can run it through a Vent or into my Fireface UFX. This arrangement means I can put a dummy jack in the headphone socket to mute the speakers and just have the line out working.
        Hammond A100, M102, X5, XB3, XB5, TTR-100,
        Lowrey DSO-1, H25-3, Yamaha E70, RA-100,
        Farfisa Compact Duo MK2, Vox Continental 300,
        Korg BX3 MK1, Leslie 145, 122.

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        • #9
          My $2 Leslie control centre from eBay and my TWGH 6 pin socket arrived today and I cobbled together a 26-1 kit. Well Andy you were right! Slow internal and fast external Leslie is great!
          Hammond A100, M102, X5, XB3, XB5, TTR-100,
          Lowrey DSO-1, H25-3, Yamaha E70, RA-100,
          Farfisa Compact Duo MK2, Vox Continental 300,
          Korg BX3 MK1, Leslie 145, 122.

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          • #10
            Glad it all works the way you want it to. A Holiday and a 145 or 147 make a great combination. And yes, that sound is quite something. Lowrey must have thought so too as they put Multi Channel Chorus onto the later GAK models. Electronic 'slow leslie' that you could mix with the real one on fast.
            It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

            New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

            Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
            Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
            Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
            Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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