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Hi Christian
(The complete UI is totally different vs. OAS and much more fast and logical to work with on daily basis)
Naturally it is a newer instrument with a bigger screen and resolution, however the base (Heart) of both systems is the same, only the visuals have changed and using the latest hardware and software OS (Windows 64bit) it has become faster? (Just like a computer in 2020 is faster than one from 2010)
(I have meanwhile converted around 250 Genos styles to my OAX. In direct comparison they sound different, but much better than any T2 format style. The conversion works much better in OAX as it did in OAS (with the outdated T2 format). I have the direct comparison as I own both Genos and OAX)
I have compared the OAX conversion to the Genos and to my ears OAX falls well short, (Conversion to T2 format and then revoicing and tweaking the style gives a much more realistic sound to my ears) however if you are happy with it that’s fine, everyone is different.
(As OAX User I totally disagree. Actually it was first with OAX that I was convinced to go from OAS to OAX. The legacy OAS voices sounds as the did in OAS, just with a more differented frequency range (less muffy). Actually I use around 80-100% of new added OAX voices in my preset).
As you said in your previous post the audio board in OAX is better, therefore the included OAS voices should sound better, (Which they do) but in your previous post you say you cannot hear any difference between them, but now you say you do.
To my (And others) ears, comparing the post V2.00 sounds to real instruments and players, a lot of them sound inferior to Pre V2.00 voices. (I always compare them to real live instruments and players)
Which ones are concrete missing in 2.60? OAX offers much more features than OAS ever did (my OAS was 7.46).
The OAS manuals can still be downloaded here https://www.wersi-hochrhein.com/downloads_2.html if you wish to compare. NOTE: There are 9 separate manuals for the Scala, (Scala, Programmierhandbuch, Sound Factory, OpenArtArranger, Rhythm Designer, Drum Editor and Multi Record) some were optional but included as standard on later models, also the OAA had a further update (Not shown in the German Manual) that allowed you to create and edit a pattern on the instrument itself, as well as being able to easily manipulate the tracks.
(You are obviously not familiar with OAA in OAX. It comes with the same features as in OAS plus various new ones (Midi2style / style2midi in a very easy way, editing of real drums, style assembly function similar to Genos etc.). It is actually more powerful than the Genos onbord style editor)
Check the OAS, OAA manual above to see the differences and also note the update.
The following I cannot find in OAX even though you say they are there.
Style2Midi & Midi2style (Except using external DAW and Importing/Exporting) and certainly nothing like the Midi2style system in the Korg PA4x or EMC Style Works.
New Real drums can be added to OAS, OAA just like they can with OAX, OAA
(BTW I don’t use my Genos, Montage or Kronos Keyboards connected to my OAX800. It has everything I need to enjoy playing an organ and I know actually also OAX users, that sold their midi modules after they shifted away from OAS)
And I know plenty of people that didn’t go either the OAX route or get rid of there keyboard/modules, so it still comes down to personal choice.
Let’s hope V2.7 will fill some of the gaps, as currently OAX falls short of the competition.
Regards
Bill
Update:
Have found a later manual for the Open Art Arranger which includes all the new features, (English) and can be downloaded from here https://app.box.com/s/6pt1t0er3awp6rhy4seqvpvx58p3gfhl
Regards
Bill
(The complete UI is totally different vs. OAS and much more fast and logical to work with on daily basis)
Naturally it is a newer instrument with a bigger screen and resolution, however the base (Heart) of both systems is the same, only the visuals have changed and using the latest hardware and software OS (Windows 64bit) it has become faster? (Just like a computer in 2020 is faster than one from 2010)
(I have meanwhile converted around 250 Genos styles to my OAX. In direct comparison they sound different, but much better than any T2 format style. The conversion works much better in OAX as it did in OAS (with the outdated T2 format). I have the direct comparison as I own both Genos and OAX)
I have compared the OAX conversion to the Genos and to my ears OAX falls well short, (Conversion to T2 format and then revoicing and tweaking the style gives a much more realistic sound to my ears) however if you are happy with it that’s fine, everyone is different.
(As OAX User I totally disagree. Actually it was first with OAX that I was convinced to go from OAS to OAX. The legacy OAS voices sounds as the did in OAS, just with a more differented frequency range (less muffy). Actually I use around 80-100% of new added OAX voices in my preset).
As you said in your previous post the audio board in OAX is better, therefore the included OAS voices should sound better, (Which they do) but in your previous post you say you cannot hear any difference between them, but now you say you do.
To my (And others) ears, comparing the post V2.00 sounds to real instruments and players, a lot of them sound inferior to Pre V2.00 voices. (I always compare them to real live instruments and players)
Which ones are concrete missing in 2.60? OAX offers much more features than OAS ever did (my OAS was 7.46).
The OAS manuals can still be downloaded here https://www.wersi-hochrhein.com/downloads_2.html if you wish to compare. NOTE: There are 9 separate manuals for the Scala, (Scala, Programmierhandbuch, Sound Factory, OpenArtArranger, Rhythm Designer, Drum Editor and Multi Record) some were optional but included as standard on later models, also the OAA had a further update (Not shown in the German Manual) that allowed you to create and edit a pattern on the instrument itself, as well as being able to easily manipulate the tracks.
(You are obviously not familiar with OAA in OAX. It comes with the same features as in OAS plus various new ones (Midi2style / style2midi in a very easy way, editing of real drums, style assembly function similar to Genos etc.). It is actually more powerful than the Genos onbord style editor)
Check the OAS, OAA manual above to see the differences and also note the update.
The following I cannot find in OAX even though you say they are there.
Style2Midi & Midi2style (Except using external DAW and Importing/Exporting) and certainly nothing like the Midi2style system in the Korg PA4x or EMC Style Works.
New Real drums can be added to OAS, OAA just like they can with OAX, OAA
(BTW I don’t use my Genos, Montage or Kronos Keyboards connected to my OAX800. It has everything I need to enjoy playing an organ and I know actually also OAX users, that sold their midi modules after they shifted away from OAS)
And I know plenty of people that didn’t go either the OAX route or get rid of there keyboard/modules, so it still comes down to personal choice.
Let’s hope V2.7 will fill some of the gaps, as currently OAX falls short of the competition.
Regards
Bill
Update:
Have found a later manual for the Open Art Arranger which includes all the new features, (English) and can be downloaded from here https://app.box.com/s/6pt1t0er3awp6rhy4seqvpvx58p3gfhl
Regards
Bill
(Which by the way is a good advice for many (not all!) old organs)
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