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Brazilian Organ (Minami) + Recording using both a line out and its own speakers

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  • seamaster
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    I've heard organs that cost a lot more sound a lot worse.

    There'd be buyers for that at £1999. What's the competition now at anything near that price?

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  • musicmaker84
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    Some impressions. Not the worst GM sounds.

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  • MarianiSani
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    Originally posted by seamaster View Post
    Interesting that all the panel labelling is in English, suggesting some export ambitions?
    It's the general rule here for organs and amps, they're generally written in english... maybe to follow the standard set by foreign equipment

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  • MarianiSani
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    Yo! Thanks for the insight!

    I wanted to ask about the isopropyl alcohol idea, if it is legit...
    And about the expression pedal, do you think just leaving it as deep inside as it gets, so it gets loud, therefore controlling the volume in the drawbar is the best to do?


    On Minami/Tokai - there are some organs from the 70's/80's which are REALLY good, like Giannini and others (Giannini used to have some of the best other instruments in terms of quality, they even did a knock-off of the classic Rickenbacker bass model which was really good) - I recorded some songs using a friend's Giannini organ and they sound lovely, which complex arppegio patterns and many specific controls, even for a 80's Brazilian organ...

    These brand-new Tokais are not even close to the standard of foreign organs, and on a store they're not sold for less than 9000 Reais, which would be 1700 Pounds. It's a ****ING LOAD of money down here. Based on the used prices for Baldwins and Yamahas on U.S. ebay, that's even more absurd, but since we can't buy those, this is what we can get. I got this Minami for 900 R$, so it's a really good purchase.

    On the mono thing (why I can't hear nothing on the phone when the P2 adapter is all the way inside), do you think this might be related to my phone having an in-built mic?

    I'm really not good with electronics, so I'm wary of opening it up. Just by touching the plug with the tip of the RCA cable it emits this loud static sounds, and it doesn't work (it kills the speakers, and doesn't extract a line as well).

    I really wanted to buy a synth of a keyboard on which I could simulate the timbre and the arppegio patterns which are common in this type of organ... Generally, arppegio patterns in all the synths I've played don't allow me to keep the keyboard sounding while just including the notes in the pattern, the way most organs do. Don't know if I'm making myself clear, hahahahaha

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  • Silken Path
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    That shiny black finish looks like craftsmanship. OT, but I've recently got an 88-key Roland synth that has 1500 voices built in with USB expansion. It's an experience learning about it, but it's easy to play it (and get sounds from it) through MIDI from my Roland piano. I got so enthused that I also bought the 61-key version, which has the "synth" keyset, to use as a portable organ AND to hook up to my Rodgers W5000. The music world is moving on whether I'm ready or not. These say "General Midi 2" on them.

    Still, it's nice to see a full line of organ models being offered. I look at them and think about how stark the last little Roland models looked.

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  • seamaster
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    Interesting that all the panel labelling is in English, suggesting some export ambitions?

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  • auronoxe
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    I listend to some of the YT videos... Hm, many are rather under-whelming, with mostly 1980s home organ flute vibrato sounds. These seem to be the stored presets. But it seems it has a decent Leslie sim (but no way sounding like a clonewheel), decent classic organ sound and strings...

    Drawbars
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LJpK_j5B4
    Church
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NPv-VM0Bwo
    Strings like
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjY6OOed8xU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFWtwP4RhjE

    Better than a Ringway for the price? Not really sure... Better than the „so called“ Estey „organs“? Yes!



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  • andyg
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    The only thing that worries me, having waded through the specs and attempted to translate (my Portuguese is very rusty) is that I see the 128 number in the orchestral voices section. That instantly rings alarm bells about the basic low quality GM soundset.

    The Concert does indeed appear to be a clonewheel, so the MD-750 Gold is 'the most complete'.

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  • seamaster
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    From what I can make out that’s a “clonewheel” type organ, and doesn’t appear to have any other voicing/automatics/etc?

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  • musicmaker84
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    The Concert is more or less the same price.

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  • Silken Path
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    Looks like the "Concert" is the real top - it has a pedalboard.

    http://www.tokai.com.br/orgaos-eletronicos.php

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  • musicmaker84
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    A bit more than 2000 pounds these days, suggested retail price. Not bad. Probably the Ringway/Orla 400 is better voiced, but lacks the drawbars.

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  • musicmaker84
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    They have different top of the line models it seems as their channel reveals.

    All that is needed is a Brazilian Taro Trade. Anyone?

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  • seamaster
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    We've chatted about these before.

    The MD-750 Gold model, described as "the most complete organ in Brazil", so I assume the top of the line, retails in Brazil for a lot less than £2K (I found one on sale over there for around £1700). It looks like it would make a spiffing cheap home organ here with drawbars and what appears to be a high quality cabinet in a choice of finishes. Certainly a more compelling proposition than those awful, underspec-ed and overpriced Chinese "Esteys".

    I think zombie-Lowrey has backed the wrong horse.

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  • musicmaker84
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    And judging by their YouTube channel, there seems to be quite a market for these organs in liturgical contexts.

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