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    Hi Organ Forum! The old Wurlitzer 4500 is eye pleasing, and has anice sound, but itis getting old QUICK! I don't like not having any foot pedals.Every now and then, it starts to make a crackling noise while I play, and some of thekeys have an unevenvolume.I am assuming that this organ is just showing signs of its age. I would like to give this organ to my grandmother, who really likes its appearance. She does not play, so this instrument will just be a piece of furniture in her house, except forholidays when I could playholiday music for our familygatherings.I plan on purchasing a Yamaha Electone, most likely from the 80's. Some models that I have found used are the ME-15A ($300), the HS-6 ($650), and the MR-700T ($400). What are your general opinions on Yamaha Electone organs? Any Pros/Cons that should be brought to my attention? Thanks! </P>
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    Of these three, the HS6 is the best. The ME and MR aresmaller. They are all spinets, of course, but with extended pedalboards. I personally think they all sound a bit thin, and none actually have any organ voices. They feature organ presets, like Organ 1, Organ 2, Jazz Organ, Church Organ etc. All have plastic cabinets, no real wood anywhere.</P>


    Those prices are alltoo high. The ME and MR should be less than $300 these days - some sell for the equivalent of less than $100 over here on eBay. The HS6 is worth a little more, but not $650.</P>


    If you want a Yamaha with a good sound and a nice cabinet, look at older models like the FS and FE series, or even at organs like the D85. If you want a really rich tibia/flute sound like the Wurlitzer, don't look at any older Yamahas. You won't really find it. The D85 and FS get nearest, but compared to an American flute sound with a real leslie or Spectratone, close but no cigar.</P>


    The plus sides of Yamaha are that you do get a lot of sounds and featuresto play with, and they are usually very reliable - even the older ones. However,even some of those are now showing their age.</P>


    Andy</P>
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

    Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
    Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
    Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
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      Yamaha Electone, ME-15A ($300), the HS-6 ($650), and the MR-700T ($400). What are your general opinions on Yamaha Electone organs? [/quote]</P>


      G'Day John,</P>


      Firstly, as Andy says, you will get years of super reliability with a Yamaha. Don't expect any of these that you've found to sound anything like your Wurly - they won't. They are all 2nd generation digital and sound as such. As Andy says the layout on them is not what you'd expect from analog instrument, but the upside is there are more sounds and programmable functions than analog can deliver.Accessories, eg. RAM packs for MR700 &amp; HS6 would now be almost impossible to obtain, as would RAM music books for MR700. As for cabinetry 2 of these models are US assembled and should be in timber cabinets. The prices you've been given are frankly way over the top - the ME15 is only a baby instrument worth say $75, MR700 around $200 &amp; HS6 around $300.</P>


      If you want to remain analog with a more traditional tab voice layout and facility for a 415 or 700 series 11 pin multichannel Leslie, have a look at models 305, 315, 405, or 415. They are US assembled instruments with all wood cabinets. These numbers equate to what the rest of the world knows as C35, C55, D65 &amp; D85, built in Japan &amp; the last two finished in real walnut veneer.</P>


      Good Luck with your search,</P>


      Kam-pai,</P>


      Ian</P>
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        I think that I will try to get the HS-6. I like the videos on youtube of these organs. What would be a reasonable offer to offer the seller of this organ?It seems to bein great shape. The guy went through the trouble of listing each and every setting[:O]Thanks.</P>
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        $8,000 FOR A 10 YEAR OLD ELECTONE AR-100?!?!?!?!?!?! http://atlanta.craigslist.org/msg/736801755.html</P>

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          Go for the $300 mentioned above.</P>


          $8K for an AR100? Not for a privatesale over here, but UK dealer prices for that model are around £3000-£3500, so maybe just a little overpriced for a dealer sale and more so privately.</P>


          Andy</P>
          It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

          New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

          Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
          Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
          Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
          Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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            Just to give you an idea of value - I just purchased a Yamaha FX-20 (the wood console of the FX-1 stage model). It was the absolute top of the line Electone they made from 1983-1986. I paid $300 Canadian for it. That HS-6 shouldn't sell for more than $250.</P>
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              I was happy to open my email and find that the organ is still for sale. I sent my offer of $300. I will let you guys know how this goes.

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                You might keep my email address handy if you ever need technical help with the FX20. There are a couple cronic problems with these which include slider drive motor problems and an insidious broken grounding wire on the expression pedal that permits static to scramble the organ until power is cycled.</P>


                One other problem is with some RO1 reg packs that get a shorted capacitor that wipes out a transistor on the SC board in the organ. No further RP will work until transistor is replaced.</P>

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                  There is a disagreement with the HS-6. The husband agrees to my offer and wants it out of his basement. The wife doesn't want to let it go for $300. </P>

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                    Just Hang Loose. My bet is they won't get any other offers, let alone a better offer! [;)]</P>


                    Lee</P>

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                      Yeah, that is my bet too. The ad was posted a few months back. It is several pages back in a search for "organ" on craigslist.

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                        If you hang in long enough, they will be paying YOU $300 to come and get it out of their basement! Considering the really sad state of the home organ market, they probably won't get any further offers. People can't give organs away anymore.</P>


                        In my opinion, you are $50 too high. </P>
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                          With our economy here in the US right now, no one really has a spare $300 to pay somone to get their organ!

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                            Hi fredy2 and all other.


                            <u>You wrote: </u>
                            </p>

                            You might keep my email address handy if you ever need technical help with the <b style="color: black;">FX20[/b].
                            There are a couple cronic problems with these which include slider
                            drive motor problems and an insidious broken grounding wire on the <b style="color: black;">expression[/b] pedal that permits static to scramble the organ until power is cycled.</p>

                            <u>Now my question to you:</u></p>

                            Where is the broken grounding wire to the expression pedal ?</p>

                            Where can i find this cable in the organ ?</p>

                            Maybe can you send me pictures from the cable, and the position in the Yamaha FX-20 organ, via E-Mail to me ?</p>

                            That would be great.
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                            </p>

                            Thanks a lot and many greetings from</p>Lothe

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                              The wire is right under the pedal itself and grounds the moving part to the base frame.

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