Odd 145 panel?

[rrgrr]

Here's a pic of my 145 -I haven't had it long, it has a back panel I have never seen with the circular port. The fabric looks old and factory, but I wonder if it came from a different cabinet? The ID plate is missing, hard to tell if it was circular or square, but there are holes where it was attached. It also came with a slightly larger pulley on the fast horn motor (which I changed to correct the speed). The lower panel looks like a mismatch also. The upper panel was not included. From what I can tell, it is a '65. Has anyone seen a rear panel like this?

[peterb_2795]

It might be an idea to pull the two panels off so as to show the rest of the 145. It is not that unusual for panels to get lost as indeed, that looks to be the case with this Leslie at some point in its life (cosmetically, I would still look to replace the centre panel, but that is me being a bit pedantic).

The other thought that comes to mind (given the lack of plate/serNo and panels) is that it could be a bit of a franken-leslie if we don't know whats under the covers. However, I'm certainly no purist and I'd say that if it is mechanically and electrically good, sounds good and you are happy at the price paid - then you are 'quids in',and don't worry too much about its provenance.

[rrgrr]

Here's a couple more pics. I was thinking it could be a 'franken' something, it has clearly been doctored with new motor plugs, some silly silver spray paint over the horn ends and on the woofer basket. I can see it is Jensen special design. The amp bracket is missing at the front, too. I've not seen another amp this vintage, so it's hard for me to tell what's new inside the amp. I replaced the xover with a Trek II. It looks 'gently' refinished, but very nice. The PO said his father owned it for years, and also had a 125, which was not so nice. I still suspect he took the ID plate for memorabilia. He said a local tech had serviced it recently.

The holes next to the round port on the rear panel kind of look like there may have been a speaker there, maybe had a reverb amp with it(?)
The price was right (not a steal), and it looks good to me, sounds Great. I hunted it for a friend who changed their mind, so I am very happy to be 'stuck with it'!
I am picky, but not a purist, either -it has/does everything a good 145 is made of. Just curious about where the panel came from.
I built a switch box for it with a half-moon, so I can run my VK-8 thru it, or whatever. It will likely get on stage sometime this year, If I can get my act together=-O

[David Anderson]

I can't see the angles that I need to see, but I'm wondering if this was a 45 cabinet repurposed as a 145. If you look up at the bottom of the horn baffle, does it look like there was something round there? The box that would normally be around the upper motor stack is missing. Do the cut-outs for the lower motor stack going through the woofer baffle look professional or not?

Or maybe someone just had a spare 45 back panel and used it in place of a missing 145 back panel.

[nonreverb]

Looks like the board off a Leslie 125 or a flipped 21h/22h/47/51 that's been cut down to size. How do I know this? The side mount bolts should be in the center. They're not. They're location is based on a full sized back board. I've used 125 board before on 147's and 122's as they're the exact same size and so are their bolt locations. The large hole is a mod.
If there are two holes for the badge, then it's probably an early 125 round badge.

[einstein magoo]

The pretty side IS really pretty! And you can lay your head on that pillow on top and sleep with her.

Someone much smarter than me will be along, but that doesn't look like the treble driver in mine. Most everything else internally looks the same. Haven't dug in deep yet but I think mine is 1964 or 65. Plywood shelves like yours.

[nonreverb]

I can't see the angles that I need to see, but I'm wondering if this was a 45 cabinet repurposed as a 145. If you look up at the bottom of the horn baffle, does it look like there was something round there? The box that would normally be around the upper motor stack is missing. Do the cut-outs for the lower motor stack going through the woofer baffle look professional or not?

Or maybe someone just had a spare 45 back panel and used it in place of a missing 145 back panel.

Motor upper motor placement looks right for a 145. 45 speaker and horn assembly is farther to the left I believe.

[David Anderson]

Motor upper motor placement looks right for a 145. 45 speaker and horn assembly is farther to the left I believe.

I was thinking that, too, but I'm not good at reading that kind of thing from photos.

[peterb_2795]

It also looks like the low speed motors have been possibly replaced or added at a later date... Aside from the shiny new metal brackets, the black painted attachment frame looks fresher and a different shade to the fast motor.

A jensen P15LL, V21 horn, recent motors, clean amp, lower wooden rotor and an all-ply cabinet - mate, you're definitely 'quids-in' and should thank your mate for getting cold-feet on the purchase. The guts all look solid and the main cabinet is really good, plus you are happy with the sound. Anything else is just a bit of cosmetics and TLC. :)

[nonreverb]

Fast speed motor on the lower looks like it says 6516 making it's production date at 16th week of 1965. That could be the original motor assembly based on the other cabinet features mentioned earlier.

[Sweet Pete]

Just 'two speeded' a 45. Motors are to the left side up top. Bottom shelf in the posters pic is a 145 for sure.
That's a 145 with a cut down middle back panel me thinks. A '65 would likely have a square back ceramic woofer?
I have a complete original 147 #83*** (1964) with a square back woofer.

[nonreverb]

Just 'two speeded' a 45. Motors are to the left side up top. Bottom shelf in the posters pic is a 145 for sure.
That's a 145 with a cut down middle back panel me thinks. A '65 would likely have a square back ceramic woofer?
I have a complete original 147 #83*** (1964) with a square back woofer.

Nope, '65 could definitely be a P15LL...what's the date code on your woofer? I've never seen a '64 with a ceramic before.

[David Anderson]

It's also missing the lower motor oiling tube you'd normally find on 45s, so it's probably a 145 with the back panel from a 44W or 45 -- or a well-done replacement. The back panel from a 44W/45 has no holes or ports on it. It's hard to get the color exactly right on a replacement.

[nonreverb]

I'm going with 25/125 cover cut down. Mount holes are above center. I've done this exact thing to a 142 cab I had. It's a dead giveaway.

[Sweet Pete]

Nope, '65 could definitely be a P15LL...what's the date code on your woofer? I've never seen a '64 with a ceramic before.

That one is 'up next' for a refurb. Will post what I find. Hasn't been 'fired up' since last July when I shut it off while inspecting for what turned out to be a real fire......
One thing's for sure. The 'under the hood' PS recap job someone did is due for fresh caps.Too bad the can socket is missing!
Would prefer to find a can socket and go back to a fresh CE replacement.
Box is in fine condition, was my daily driver with the B2.

You are experienced in this middle panel refit so I'll be happy my carpenter does 'exact' repros for me.My 142 is spot on!