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  • Conn 651 Deluxe Edition?

    This Conn 651 I am looking at is white with wood filigree and gold accents. Does that automatically make it a "Deluxe Edition"? Do deluxe editions have any difference in the organ itself or just with the case design?
    Conn 650 (Type 1) with gold bus bars. 4 sets of Conn Pipes. A stupid Kimball piano

  • #2
    I believe it was just a snazzy finish. I may be wrong.. I would grab that in a heartbeat.. I like the white console look.
    Mine is in Walnut.

    I like your Avatar..

    marc
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    Thomas Floridian Classic -- aka Wersi Rondo Classic
    Kimball K800 'Fascination' Theater Organ
    Conn 650 - Type 1 with Conn Pipes - Model #145
    Baldwin Cinema 2 (214-DR)
    Wersi Spectra DX 700 CD - LiveStyle, Memory Tower
    Wersi Beta DX400 TS - (with AMS)
    Wersi Delta DX 500 - (with AMS)
    Wersi Pegasus Keyboard!
    MOOG Eterwave Standard Theremin & MOOG Werkstatt
    Roland GAIA SH-01 Virtual Analog Synthesizer
    Casio Privia PX-160 Digital Piano!

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    • #3
      Thanks, that's what I'm thinking too. Can anyone confirm this?

      BTW here are photos from the owner of the 651 I'm looking at (with conn pipes!)
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      So I'm in a [stupid] bind. It's either this beautiful 651 with pipes from the original owner (Will see and verify condition Sunday), or a 99% perfect 650 (cleaned, restored and tuned 2016) with the gold buss-bars (2015 or before) in the standard walnut finish, from 2nd or 3rd owner.
      The 651 is also much closer to me (45 minutes vs 2 1/4 hours!). I am PRAYING that the 651 is is amazing condition...maybe it even has the gold buss-bars! You never know. It's looking like like it will be the 651 regardless of condition....I mean why NOT?? Lol I want to steal the gold buss-bars from the 650 and put them in the 651

      And thanks, my avatar is the 3/19 Wurlitzer at the Akron Civic Theatre.
      Conn 650 (Type 1) with gold bus bars. 4 sets of Conn Pipes. A stupid Kimball piano

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      • #4
        Frankly, [IMHO].. I'd get the 651 because folks have mentioned that the Solo stops [brass, reeds, etc.] seem better than on the 650. Not to mention all those great pipes! They really do make a difference!
        Mine has that symmetrical one like the one in your picture.. I don't have the bass pipes as in your picture..

        I would play it though and see how it sounds.. check every note on every stop on every manual [and bass]..

        Conn made 2 editions of the 650 - a 'Type-1' and a 'Type-2' .. the Type-2 has a spring reverb tank. The 'Type-1' does not. However, the 650 has 2 levels of 'Chiff' [the sound a real pipe makes as it starts], and 2 Tibia harmonic levels.
        You can always add a digital reverb with a little bit of work..
        The folks here on the forum and most helpful and knowledgeable... Good organ techs!

        I can understand why you're torn between the two, but give the white one a try.. you may be happily surprised!
        -- Remember that the gold buss bars give a sharp attack to the notes.. IMHO, that ruins the effect of how pipes speak - [soft attack].
        If you're picky about 'authenticity', I would prefer the 651...

        My 650 was a gift.. and it was purchased for only $240 ...

        I'm still leaning towards that 651.. so beautiful..

        Even though the Conn pipes use speakers and not air, they are harmonically tuned so that the sound rushing through them creates a more realistic sound.. I was amazed at how my pipes made my 650 sound more like realistic.

        I'm sure others may provide more details here...

        Here's a picture of mine [it was in a different location than my home in this picture]...


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        marc
        Last edited by Suhndog; 05-28-2016, 10:18 AM.
        Lowrey MX2 (NT400x)
        Thomas Floridian Classic -- aka Wersi Rondo Classic
        Kimball K800 'Fascination' Theater Organ
        Conn 650 - Type 1 with Conn Pipes - Model #145
        Baldwin Cinema 2 (214-DR)
        Wersi Spectra DX 700 CD - LiveStyle, Memory Tower
        Wersi Beta DX400 TS - (with AMS)
        Wersi Delta DX 500 - (with AMS)
        Wersi Pegasus Keyboard!
        MOOG Eterwave Standard Theremin & MOOG Werkstatt
        Roland GAIA SH-01 Virtual Analog Synthesizer
        Casio Privia PX-160 Digital Piano!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Suhndog View Post
          Conn made 2 editions of the 650 - a 'Type-1' and a 'Type-2' .. the Type-2 has a spring reverb tank. The 'Type-1' does not. However, the 650 has 2 levels of 'Chiff' [the sound a real pipe makes as it starts], and 2 Tibia harmonic levels.
          You can always add a digital reverb with a little bit of work..
          marc
          Does the two versions only apply to the 650?
          With the 650, which version was better? Just out of curiously.
          I don't know what version the 650 I was considering is.

          Are you saying the 651 does not have the Chiff and 2 Harmonic levels like the 650? Are those the 4 small rocker switches to the left of the great on the 650?
          Conn 650 (Type 1) with gold bus bars. 4 sets of Conn Pipes. A stupid Kimball piano

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          • #6
            651 and pipes, in a heartbeat. The 651 always sounded just a bit better to my ears. Has the auto-rhythm section, should you want it, and a few extras like the Vibrato Accent - in the words of George Wright on the album he made on the 651 "Dig that wild vibrato!" Er, use with discretion, I'd say.

            That console is a one-off, no doubt commissioned by a previous owner. The 650 and 651 were available from the factory in the white and gold finish, but without all the extra decoration.
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            • #7
              I agree with Andy... Run, don't walk and get the 651 .. heh
              Lowrey MX2 (NT400x)
              Thomas Floridian Classic -- aka Wersi Rondo Classic
              Kimball K800 'Fascination' Theater Organ
              Conn 650 - Type 1 with Conn Pipes - Model #145
              Baldwin Cinema 2 (214-DR)
              Wersi Spectra DX 700 CD - LiveStyle, Memory Tower
              Wersi Beta DX400 TS - (with AMS)
              Wersi Delta DX 500 - (with AMS)
              Wersi Pegasus Keyboard!
              MOOG Eterwave Standard Theremin & MOOG Werkstatt
              Roland GAIA SH-01 Virtual Analog Synthesizer
              Casio Privia PX-160 Digital Piano!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by andyg View Post
                That console is a one-off, no doubt commissioned by a previous owner. The 650 and 651 were available from the factory in the white and gold finish, but without all the extra decoration.
                Did Conn do special commissions or do you think it was done by a 3rd party? Not that it really matters!

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                Originally posted by Suhndog View Post
                I agree with Andy... Run, don't walk and get the 651 .. heh
                Seeing it tomorrow!!! So excited!
                Conn 650 (Type 1) with gold bus bars. 4 sets of Conn Pipes. A stupid Kimball piano

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                • #9
                  I'm not sure about the extra added ornaments..

                  I would enjoy watching you inspect the 651! Playing a Conn is thrilling, and that stunning cabinet and super-cool pipes are sure to make you smile!

                  I'm hoping as well that everything will work fine.. even still, restoring a beauty like that will be a labor of love..

                  Check this out.. The Master at the Theater Organ, George Wright playing a Conn 651 !! [The album cover shows the white console as supplied by Conn - no ornamenst]..


                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2acOgA8wOo


                  --- Just for fun, here's a nice arrangement on the 650:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1EUMGq1xE
                  Last edited by Suhndog; 05-28-2016, 12:57 PM.
                  Lowrey MX2 (NT400x)
                  Thomas Floridian Classic -- aka Wersi Rondo Classic
                  Kimball K800 'Fascination' Theater Organ
                  Conn 650 - Type 1 with Conn Pipes - Model #145
                  Baldwin Cinema 2 (214-DR)
                  Wersi Spectra DX 700 CD - LiveStyle, Memory Tower
                  Wersi Beta DX400 TS - (with AMS)
                  Wersi Delta DX 500 - (with AMS)
                  Wersi Pegasus Keyboard!
                  MOOG Eterwave Standard Theremin & MOOG Werkstatt
                  Roland GAIA SH-01 Virtual Analog Synthesizer
                  Casio Privia PX-160 Digital Piano!

                  Comment

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