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  • Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



    Hi. New to this forum.



    I recently picked up a Thomas Trianon for free from Craigslist.



    Has a great goth looking cabinet. Have been able to fix minor probles so far, but,



    I am having a problem with the Orchestral to Solo coupler switch.



    When I turn it on I get a sound like I'm leaning on the keys. The individual stops work correctly



    i.e. if I turn on tibia I get tibia etc. Just all at once rather then being played by the keys.



    Also, can anyone tell me what the swith furthest to the right, in front of the lesle tabs, is for?



    It's broken off and I'm wondering what it does.


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    Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



    I fixed the coupler switch issue . The little 'cat whisker' wires to several of the keys were stuck under



    the contact part making for constant contact. A little adjusting with some needle nose pliers and it works.



    Still wondering about the switch in front of the Leslie tabs.

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      Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



      RE: Broken Tab: Also, can anyone tell me what the swith furthest to the right, in front of the lesle tabs, is for?It's broken off and I'm wondering what it does




      I have the Model 6820 which is different, but still has three keyboards. Did you ever get an answer to your question ? I have a broken tab in the Orchestral section. The switch works, just NO tab. SO: I went to a local clinic, begged for two wooden tounge depresser sticks. I cut one in half and then measured other simular tabs in that section.




      I ended with the two wooden pieces glued together, with one piece slightly longer. Then I went to several Hobby Shops and finally ended at Hobby Lobby. They have inexpensive bottles of craft paints. I found a color close to the adajacent tabs, ( in this case Jade/Turqoise) and put on several coats of paint.




      All I need to do now is label the tab with some White lettering and overcoat with a Clear Krylon spray and attach it to the top of the tab switch. I may also drill a small hole and use a very small sheet metal screw to glue and then secure the tab.




      AS to key switch problems; I have detailed problems with the switches on the Top Manual in another post. If you are having simular problems, check my other posts for Thomas Trianon Model 6820.




      Hope to keep in touch and would like to learn how YOUR model is working ?




      Regards, Doug

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        Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



        If the switch is a stop tab on the curved rail, it might be for a glockenspiel. Thomas offered a real metal bar glock in a walnut boxthat was placed outside the console on some of their organs of this vintage. If this is what you are referring to, and you don't have the external glock, then the tab wouldn't do anything except "be there".




        If it is on the Solo manual key cheek block, it might be for chimes--it would look like a very narrow rocker tab. That tab set up a set of flutes, sustain, and I think a set of key switches, if I remember right.




        Apart from that, I don't know. I do not have a Trianon, and can't remember it that well. When I worked for Thomas ages ago, I worked on the 2nd version of the Trianon--the 6820.

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          There wasn't an external Glock tab, IIRC. Thomas's 'glock' was what they called 'Orchestral Bells'. It's 30+ years since I played a Celebrity with a set attached but I think it had its own add-on switch gear.



          There are some Trianon brochure scans in Skippy's gallery, but they are for the 6820, not the 606. He also has some close up photos of the Celebrity that may perhaps give you a clue. What we really need is someone with a 606 to pitch in, and I dodn't think there's a 606 owner on here. Most 606's are long gone by now, sadly.

          It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

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            Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



            I don't have information specific to the Trianon, but I've had a Paramount theater spinet (lost in the 2004 hurricane)and the 855 Symphony. Most Thomas organs have a rotor off switch as the last in the speaker group. It was for the '70s electronic sound with no animation.




            Thomas registration books used to recommend a combination of tibias with the rotor off as the "Champagne Music" sound. If any of the forum members watch the Public Television Broadcast (in the U.S.) of the old Lawrence Welk show the sound is very dominant in the Sign Off song.




            Some Thomas organs also have Main & Echo and Echo switches separated from but to the right of the other speaker switches. Hope this information is helpful.

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              FYI : There is a Thomas Trianon Theater Organthat just went off EBay as Item 220387114893 . Appears to be a model 606 ? Perhaps you can contact the owners and request some pictures ? So they do still exist !




              C Ya, Doug

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                Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler

                Definitely a 606!
                It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

                New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

                Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
                Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
                Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
                Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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                  Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



                  Last tab on the treble end is "Color Glo" (How could I forget--maybe because I want to!)




                  See ebay: 180325151344 and go to the larger picture that shows the band box close up (you have to select "larger picture" to read the tab).




                  Toodles.

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                    Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



                    Hi Joey,



                    How is your Model 606 coming along? I just acquired a 606F over the weekend. Everything seems to work except the main speaker. This causes all of the pedal voices and some of the other voices not to work, like the solo voices. When I plug in a headphone, I can hear that everything works. Perhaps a loose connection to the speakers? Perhaps I can run some speaker wire from the headphone switch under the console to the speakers if they are undamaged otherwise.

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                      Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



                      I would advise you to lift the fallboard and look at the back end of the tongue tablet. It has a loop and peg type connection that leads to a slider switch. Either the connection is out (because someone's pounded on the tabs) or the slider is not making good connections. I had put my 855 Symphony out with a church that had a school and the kids did this so the church bought a Technics and gave the Thomas back to me. I made the connection and tightened the sides of the slide run until I had contact -- and now I don't touch the speaker switches anymore because I only play mine with Leslie Tremolo and Main&Speaker so I don't need to reset. That's been 6 years and no other problems since!




                      Hope you get just as good service from your Thomas!

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                        Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



                        I appreciate your suggestion. The technician was out to the house today and determined that the headphone switch under the keyboard was bad. It will take a couple a weeks to obtain a new one and he will install it, along with dusting out the bottom of the unit and clean some of the pedal contacts. For now he positioned the switch that all works well. This guy really knows his stuff and from what I see I can highly recommend him. He is out of Murrieta, CA. If someone needs a good tech, e-mail me privately and I will give you his contact information. See photo in next thread below.



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                          Re: Help with Thomas Trianon 606 - Orch : Solo coupler



                          "My Thomas Trianon 606F"



                          Copy and paste:http://www.bayshorehoa.org/DSC_0193.JPG

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