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    This is just an idea that I've had and I don't know if it would be feasible, but an OrganForum app would be cool. I'd for sure use it.
    Just a thought.

    Philip
    “I play the notes as they are written (well, I try), but it is God who makes the music.” - Johann Sebastian Bach
    Organs I Play:
    - Home: VPO Compiled from Allen 2110 parts
    - Church: M.P. Moller 1951 (Relocated 2015) 3 manual, 56 stop, 38 ranks (Opus 8152)

  • #2
    Ah, but the temptation to be invasive and upload your contacts and activity at midnight... Somebody said, "I don't need your stinkin' app," and I tend to agree.... That was only partially in jest. As a rule, I never install games or "popular" apps on my phone because of the privacy risk. Apple is moving toward "granular control" of app permissions, but the developers HATE that idea. (They want to root around in your underwear drawer, the kitchen sink, and your petunia-smelling trash.)

    Maybe we have a generation gap here?
    -- I'm Lamar -- Allen TC-4 Classic project, 1899 Kimball project
    -- Rodgers W5000C, Juno DS-61/88, FA-06, VR-09B, Conn 643, Hammond M3, E112, and L-102
    -- The mean relative humidity in Atlanta is between 60% and 80% every month of the year.

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    • Philip Powell
      Philip Powell
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      Philip Powell commented
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      No I definitely believe in privacy and it's a shame that Apple almost blocks us from having an app.

    • Silken Path
      Silken Path
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      Oh. But if we do have granular control, we can choose what apps have access to without having to remove them from the device. Thus it is the developers that are the problem, not Apple. I think that Apple should have done this long ago, but it's certainly not in Google's best interests to do so.

  • #3
    Not being an Apple customer, I'm unsure what by what is meant by the "more granular control" but I do know that the following permissions are settable on an App by App basis on my Android device:
    • Body sensors
    • Calendar
    • Call logs
    • Camera
    • Contacts
    • Location
    • Microphone
    • Phone
    • Physical Activity
    • SMS
    • Storage
    • Car Information
    • Read Instant Messages
    • Write Instant Messages
    Not to mention the standard browser privacy controls. What's missing from this list?

    Anyway, there is a path provided by VBulletin for an Organ Forum custom app, but it costs $$, effort on my part to configure it and the time and expense of getting it approved for Android and Apple devices and into their respective stores. I would consider doing so, but I cannot discern any advantage of the app over the web based version of the Forum. The current version of the software behaves very well on all screen sizes.

    What is your perceived benefit in having an app?
    -Admin

    Allen 965
    Zuma Group Midi Keyboard Encoder
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    Hauptwerk 4.2

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    • Silken Path
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      That's good news, Admin. It's been years since I've used an Android device (a Mini Edge tablet/e-reader). Sounds like it's advanced. I haven't found an equivalent set of settings in my iPhone - one has to be careful to read the permissions before installation. In general I feel that if the app is free, *you* are the product.

  • #4
    Originally posted by Admin View Post
    What is your perceived benefit in having an app?
    I don't know about you, but I love spending time on here and if I am gone for a few days I always seem to miss something important. I think that an app, even though it it's unlikely, would allow me and others to check the Forum quickly and easily on their phone. I personally don't have my own phone, but if I did, the app would be used a lot.

    “I play the notes as they are written (well, I try), but it is God who makes the music.” - Johann Sebastian Bach
    Organs I Play:
    - Home: VPO Compiled from Allen 2110 parts
    - Church: M.P. Moller 1951 (Relocated 2015) 3 manual, 56 stop, 38 ranks (Opus 8152)

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    • #5
      Originally posted by Philip Powell View Post
      I think that an app, even though it it's unlikely, would allow me and others to check the Forum quickly and easily on their phone.
      There's no need of an app for that. You can create a shortcut icon to the Organ Forum and pin it to your device's home screen on iOS and Android devices, as well as on desktop operating systems. Tapping the icon will open the Forum.

      For the current version of Android, open the browser, navigate to the Organ Forum, click browser's 3 dot menu and select Add To Home Screen. Not an Apple user, but the process is similar for iOS devices.

      Originally posted by Philip Powell View Post
      but I love spending time on here and if I am gone for a few days I always seem to miss something important.
      I'm glad you're a fan and participate here. If you don't want to miss anything, use the Unread Posts link in the navbar. It will display a list of all the topics containing posts or comments that you've not read. After you've read the post or comment, it is removed from the list. You can clear the list of topics you're not interested in by clicking a Mark (This) Channel(s) Read button. Alternatively subscribe and receive notifications for activity in forums and topics you're interested in.
      -Admin

      Allen 965
      Zuma Group Midi Keyboard Encoder
      Zuma Group DM Midi Stop Controller
      Hauptwerk 4.2

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      • #6
        Originally posted by Philip Powell View Post
        I think that an app, even though it it's unlikely, would allow me and others to check the Forum quickly and easily on their phone.
        The forum is rather easy to use with a mobile browser. I'm just typing this on my phone. Before the big update, the mobile version of the forum wasn't very comfortable, but now it is.
        I personally wouldn't need an app in addition to just using my browser here with the smartphone.

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        • #7
          I also use my mobile browser more often
          employee tracking software

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          • #8
            As an Android developer I can tell you that the solution is to send complaints about mobile formatting to the developers of the forum software, not to make an app 😊

            It would take 10's of hours just to recreate the UI here, not to mention making the thing actually functional.
            Owner of a Lowrey Heritage Deluxe DSO-1 and Silvertone 4782 (Sears-Roebuck) organs, and Yamaha Arius YDP-V240 piano. Message me for a copy of the Silvertone owner's manual.

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            • #9
              From my point of view, there's no need to make any complaints regarding the mobile version of the forum. It works fine. I'm using it for the majority of my visits here and find it easy enough to use.
              There's also no need for an app.
              But I've said that before. 🙄

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              • #10
                I have always had a glitch with the mobile version for the past couple years at least, where what's on the screen jumps up when scrolling down. It gets very annoying as I read and scroll; having it jump every few seconds so I loose my place. It's as if it is loading more posts as I scroll, and can't make the page longer without moving the viewing area. I have never had the problem with any other forum as far as I know, but most use Xenforo. I have an android phone from 2015 or 2016.
                Allen 530A

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                • Admin
                  Admin
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                  This is a performance issue with your phone and browser. I dug out my six year old Samsung S7 and see the behavior you describe using the Chrome browser. I then installed the current version of Firefox and the problem is gone. Smooth and rapid scrolling. Micrsoft Edge on Android also seems to be free of this problem on my old phone as well.

                  While the current version of Chrome performs better than what was on my phone from three years ago, it does not perform as well as Firefox. So, download the latest version of Firefox and install it on your phone, set it as your default browser, use it, and your problems will be gone.

                  FYI, the software that powers a forum has no impact on the performance on your phone. It runs on the server and sends the html data to your phone for formatting and display. If some forums perform better than others on your phone, it's because of the page format, not the underlying server software be it VBulletin, Xenforo, or whatever.
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                  Last edited by Admin; 12-08-2021, 09:57 AM.

              • #11
                I have only accessed the Forum on my laptop. But I think information security/privacy is a real issue with the phones. Last week I took a picture of a furnace filter with my iPhone and sent the photo to my wife via text. She placed the order. Then I started getting multiple ads for furnace filters on my non-Apple laptop! I never searched for filters, never mentioned filters in an email.

                I think my iPhone camera sent a message (secretly, of course, and all on its own) to advertisers that I took a picture of a filter so I must need to buy one. My phone and laptop are often in close proximity - they must be communicating without my knowledge. I wonder if my camera gets paid a commission if a recommendation results in a sale?😄

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                • Admin
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                  It's not likely this had anything to do with your camera or phone per se. Advertiser's use several methods to track your Internet activities. Cookies are used to track your activities on a single device. Network IP addresses are used to track multiple devices on the same network. Email content is scanned by providers such as GMail. Search engines such as Google and Bing record your search terms. Vendors and social media sites (NOT THIS ONE) share their information with advertising services, too.

                  I'd conjecture that your phone and laptop and your wife's device are connected to the same network and you were tracked by your IP address.

                  Achieving total anonymity on the Internet is difficult but possible. Use a VPN to avoid IP tracking. Change your browser cookie settings to disallow tracking cookies and third party cookies and set it to automatically clear all cookies when closed.
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