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  • elgauchoandres
    ppp Pianississmo
    • Aug 2008
    • 4

    #1

    Leslie 122 or 147 measures



    Hi to all,</P>


    I'm new here, I've reading lots of posts and I've learned some interesting stuff.</P>


    I have an Hammond A100 for a while and from the very first day I wanted to have a Leslie 122 or 147 because seems the more popular models. In my country is very dificult and very expensive obtain one of this babies (or any Leslie), ebay doesn't work because the shipping cost to Spain, including if I could buy only the cabinet. Then I realized that I have the abilities to build one by myself. The electronics part is solved in part but what I can't find is the measures of the cabinet.</P>


    I've seen the past post here about build a Leslie and the links there posted, also I had been doing searches on the web about the subject and never found plans or the measures of the cabinets. I want build one as close of the original as possible</P>


    So, I want ask to some of you lucky owners of a real Leslie if you could take all the measures of this models (or any other model if you want share and convinced me that are superior) to share with people like me interested in build or rebuild one of this cabinets, it could be possible to found here some nice people to take measures on this subject?</P>


    Thanks in advance,</P>


    Andres
    </P>
  • andyg
    Moderator
    • Feb 2005
    • 14243
    • Newhaven, UK
    • United Kingdom [GB]

    #2
    Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures



    Andres</P>


    To build a Leslie cabinet yourself, you would have to buy all the parts. You can'teasily makeyour ownhorn rotor or build a two-speed motor assembly, for example. Buying all the parts separately would probably cost more than buying a wholeleslie.</P>


    The leslie you really want for your A100 is a 251, as this has a second amplifier and speaker for the A100's reverb. These can be less expensive than the 122 and sometimes less than the 147. A 145 would be fine. They have enough bass response for an A100, just not quite as much as a 147. Some people actually like the 145 sound better.</P>


    Have you looked on captain foldback's leslie pages yet? http://www.captain-foldback.com</P>


    Here are some morelinks for you:</P>


    http://www.mosweb.com/knowledgebase/leslie/id12.htm</P>


    http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/lesliekits.htm</P>


    Andy</P>
    <P mce_keep="true"></P>
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

    Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
    Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
    Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
    Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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    • elgauchoandres
      ppp Pianississmo
      • Aug 2008
      • 4

      #3
      Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures



      Hi Andy,
      Thanks for your reply and advice. I know it could be a hard task but doable, as I told before I have some parts here, the parts are fairly easy to obtain here in flea markets because they don't know what are selling, in contrast people selling complete Leslies know what it is and ask astronomical sums. As reference I've got an Leslie type 122 amp as a "non functional part of an old radio" for five euros, I cleaned a little and it was working (I'm thinking to recap, that old caps scares me). I have a bare backelita double-horn without the driver (1 euro) and obtained de double upper motor in ebay Italy, the only problem is the motor is 115volts 60cycles (here is 220v 50hz) a trafo could solve the voltage problem but will have different rpm because 10hz of difference.</P>


      At the moment I'm looking for a crossover or build one, bearings, a motor for the bass rotor and of course the speakers; but if I could make a Leslie I will use (cheap) speaker alternatives for the start and then will change when opportunity appear.</P>


      I think I have abilities to build one like other people demostrated in the past and inspired me:
      http://www.users.bigpond.com/johnacollins/hammond.htm
      http://www.smctek.com/Leslie_Project.html
      http://web.archive.org/web/200403041...tml#TopicIndex</P>


      I've found lots of technical info about the Leslies but never found the cabinet plans, in the beginning is what I want to do, an exact copy of the cabinet. That's because I'm asking if someone could take the time to measure and share with people like me interested in build a clone. I think it could cost me less than buy a Leslie in second hand stores for 2000 euros (and more for a 122 or 147)</P>


      Also, as I noted before, I'm open for suggestions... you say a 251? hmmm it could be... someone had measure a 251??? anybody???</P>


      Andres</P>

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      • andyg
        Moderator
        • Feb 2005
        • 14243
        • Newhaven, UK
        • United Kingdom [GB]

        #4
        Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures



        2000 euros for a 145? Crazy! Come across to the UK, buy one for £600 and take it home on the ferry. If prices are that crazy in Spain, maybe you would save money building one!</P>


        Andy</P>
        It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

        New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com

        Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
        Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
        Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
        Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1

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        • elgauchoandres
          ppp Pianississmo
          • Aug 2008
          • 4

          #5
          Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures



          Yes Andy, you're right. People get wrong, they put a "vintage" label to all old thing and ask ridiculous prices. That's because I want build one myself, for that and because I like build things [;)] </P>


          What you say is totally correct, one month ago I was in Germany and could't find time to search for one, surely if I found one I could have some "long conversations" with my wife trying to convincing [;)]</P>


          Andres</P>

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            #6
            Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures

            <BLOCKQUOTE>


            My heart truly goes out to you bro.... </P>


            If I was rich I'd buy you one I swear it.........</P>


            I think you should build the cabinet yourself... and smuggle in some motors and rotors.... if worse comes to worse you could always wire up a dishwasher's motor... lol.. jk... I have no idea how to help you... thus. my sympathies..... Good luck though :)))))</P></BLOCKQUOTE>

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            • elgauchoandres
              ppp Pianississmo
              • Aug 2008
              • 4

              #7
              Re: Leslie 122 or 147 measures



              Noah, thanks; I appreciate your post. </P>


              I think that everyone in this forum are not rich, if we were we would not be asking questions here and pay to anyone to make our life easier, if I had money I do not mind payingthree times the value of a Leslie, but ... on the other hand, I also like to build things, I have knowledge of electronics andcarpentry.</P>


              In the absence of the cabinet measures I think maybe I should rent one for the sole purpose of taking measures. Or it would be easier to sell accessories which I obtained in Ebay and forget the project (and have a Leslie) to devote to something else?... like play music... I think I could buy a cheap Behringer effect to addcharacter to my virtuosity [;)], but sooner or later my hands will start to tremble asking for something to build [:D]</P>


              Should I buy a Lego?</P>

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