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    The second 7-manual organ



    Hi-</p>

    I'm planning a large 7-manual organ for my school. I have the support of the principal and all the music teachers. They all know that the organ is going to have 7 manuals. </p>

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    If there are more people interested, i'll release the stop list.</p>

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    Thanks for listening,</p>

    Mike 
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  • Guest

    #2
    Re: The second 7-manual organ



    Hope your school has loadsa $$$$$$$ for your organ project. Unless, of course, each manual is going to have 3 or 4 stops.</p>

    I am interested to know why your organ needs 7 manuals?
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    • FrenchHorn8
      mp Mezzo-Piano
      • Feb 2006
      • 449

      #3
      Re: The second 7-manual organ

      [8-)] here we go again

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      • Clarion
        ff Fortissimo
        • Oct 2007
        • 1517
        • Toronto

        #4
        Re: The second 7-manual organ

        Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! [:|]
        2008: Phoenix III/44

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        • Stefanussen
          pp Pianissimo
          • Jun 2005
          • 140

          #5
          Re: The second 7-manual organ

          Yep - here we go again indeed.

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          • Don Furr
            f Forte
            • Jan 2004
            • 717
            • Sun City, California

            #6
            Re: The second 7-manual organ

            Deja-Vue.......noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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            • Guest

              #7
              Re: The second 7-manual organ



              [quote user="Don Furr"]Deja-Vue.......noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[/quote]</p>

              Hola Don, nice to see you back! Hope all is well... you missed my Cameron epiphany. [:(]</p>

              Hilarious topic, isn't it? Reminds me of another forum I'm on, as sb32 knows painfully well. </p>

              From time to time we will see a post such as: "I've been playing piano for 18 months, I practice 20 minutes a day, and now I'm about to study ________ (fill in the blank, but it's usually Rachmaninov 3 or Ravel's Gaspard) so any tips on learning it?"
              </p>

              Same idiocy here. Drinks for all... [B]
              </p>

              </p>

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              • Guest

                #8
                Re: The second 7-manual organ



                onemore7manualorgan,</p>

                We hope that you'll get acquainted with the Treanor Organ Company in South Korea.  They'll glady get you set up with a 7-manual organ.  They seem to have a contract for project *Monarch Ultima* which supposedly has over eight hundred stops - or was that maybe 1000 stops/2000 ranks - Oh Drats! I just lost count........</p>

                Brother Jason, is the bar open? I need a Martini made with Bombay Sapphire...........Quick - - - - - - - - </p>

                 </p>

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                • nullogik
                  f Forte
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 979
                  • UK
                  • United Kingdom [GB]

                  #9
                  Re: The second 7-manual organ



                  Tell us more, we're all ears.</P>
                  1971 Allen Organ TC-3S (#42904) w/sequential capture system.
                  Speakers: x1 Model 100 Gyro, x1 Model 105 & x3 Model 108.

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                  • Don Furr
                    f Forte
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 717
                    • Sun City, California

                    #10
                    Re: The second 7-manual organ

                    [quote user="Jason E"]

                    [quote user="Don Furr"]Deja-Vue.......noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[/quote]</p>

                    Hola Don, nice to see you back! Hope all is well... you missed my Cameron epiphany. [:(]</p>

                    Hilarious topic, isn't it? Reminds me of another forum I'm on, as sb32 knows painfully well. </p>

                    From time to time we will see a post such as: "I've been playing piano for 18 months, I practice 20 minutes a day, and now I'm about to study ________ (fill in the blank, but it's usually Rachmaninov 3 or Ravel's Gaspard) so any tips on learning it?"
                    </p>

                    Same idiocy here. Drinks for all... [B]</p>

                    Hello My Good Friend Jason....</p>

                    I did get the chance to read the Cameron epiphany....lol I just didn't know what to say!! </p>

                    Hope you are doing well...</p>

                    Cheers
                    </p>

                    </p>[/quote]

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Re: The second 7-manual organ



                      To save cash on the project, I'm making the whole organ digital. I intend to only make one or two of the 8' Diapasons in the Great made with pipes.
                      </p>

                      I'm planning basically a 7-or-8,000 stop organ with 88-note manuals and a 39-note pedalboard. The console is designed to look exactly like the Midmer-Losh's console (except for the obvious addition of many more stops). I recognize that a combination action might be the only way all the organ's resources can be put to complete use; as such, there will be 51 general pistons and anywhere from 5 to 20 divisional pistons per division.</p>

                      All seven manuals and the pedalboard are all equipped with solenoids so the organ can be played via MIDI. However, unlike most other organs with MIDI playback and recording, the keys, pedals, expression controls, and stops all move in realtime with the playback. Other organs with this capability can only move their stops. </p>

                      In terms of unique stops, the Pedal section will have about 6 or 7 64' stops: 3 reeds, 3 flues, and one diaphone. Each major manual section will have at least one 64' stop. One of the Pedal's 64' reeds is a Grand Ophicleide at the same pressure as its Boardwalk Hall sister.  I am also going to build the 200" Last Trumpet that was put in the imaginary stoplist of the Hackenback Organ. </p>

                      The Main Organ (Pedal, Choir, Positiv, Great, Swell, Solo, Orchestral,String Organs 1,2, and 4, Brass Chorus, Vox Chorus, Percussion, and all Theatre Sections) is positioned in the front five speakers. The Gallery Organ (Gallery I, Gallery II, Gallery III, Gallery IV, Echo, Ethereal, Fanfare, String Organ 3, Bombarde, Antiphonal, Dome Choir, Dome Great, Dome Swell, Dome Solo, Dome Pedal) is positioned in the rear seven speakers, </p>

                      All speakers are equipped with seven tweeters and five big woofers to permit the easy transmission of the big 32' and 64' stops. They are all also designed to permit the Tutti to play without any clipping and without reducing the volume of the organ.</p>

                      Originally, I also planned two movable consoles: one five-manual to play the Main Organ and a limited amount of the Gallery Organ and a four-manual that can only play the Theatre Organ sections. However, as so much money was going to go the Master Console, I decided to just leave provisions for these two consoles.  </p>

                      I extended all manuals to 88 notes not only for the larger Grand sections, but so the many Grand Piano stops can be played throughout the compass without losing Octave 1 or Octave 7. </p>

                      Because of the solenoid drive system, any couplers in use will physically drive the keys of the other manual (i.e. using the Great to Choir coupler and then playing on the Choir will drive the keys of the Great).</p>

                      I hope that the instrument can be built by June of 2011 so my class can use it as our Class Gift.  </p>

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Re: The second 7-manual organ



                        *7000 - 8000 stop organ*?  *Last Trumpet stop on 200" as on the Hackenback*?</p>

                        Gee, even as an electric there might be some installation issues...</p>

                        Have the school get a copy of this instrument:</p>

                        organ12.JPG 512×391 pixels </p>

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                        • soubasse32
                          fff Fortississimo
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2872
                          • By the ocean

                          #13
                          Re: The second 7-manual organ



                          I wonder how one can speak of wind pressures on a digital organ? [^o)] Especially as the stop in question has never been built, therefore there would be nothing to sample. [:|]</P>


                          Is this organ going to be used to play "Pomp &amp; Circumstance" for the graduating class?</P>


                          If so, why stop at 8,000 stops? 10,000 might be more appropriate, especially if there are a lot of students.</P>

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Re: The second 7-manual organ



                            Oh dear, no pneumatic tone generators? I was hoping to donate my J75 turbojet engine for use as the blower. The compressor output would easily run a 2 or 3 hundred rank organ. It's a bit noisy, though and would have to be in a rather large vented closet.</P>


                            7 manuals? Got to have pretty long arms or maybe an assistant on a ladder. That's it, a split level bench. Onehalf at normal height and the other half raised 18 inches or so. Now, we can add a couple more manuals for something really impressive. Split level bench? Al, you're a genius. Gotta patent that idea before the Koreans hear about it. </P>


                            Any suggestions on multiple pedalboards? I'll work on that next.</P>


                            Al [H] A&amp;W (Allen &amp; Whistles)</P>

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                            • Don Furr
                              f Forte
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 717
                              • Sun City, California

                              #15
                              Re: The second 7-manual organ

                              I think I'm going to be sick.[:S]

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