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    I am looking to put solid state into my home pipe organ that I am currently assembling. It was not feasible to take the old system when I removed this organ and I have since added a newer console.
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    I was planning to use Peterson but recently viewed the website for Syndyne and was favourably impressed. </p>

    While I am comfortable with wiring configurations etc, it does look like a system that easily can be adapted and be assembled gradually rather than the complete system that Peterson is recommending. Also the Syndyne system can come laid out and configured with all the wiring harnesses too as an option.
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    Anybody heard any comments pro/con on their systems?
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    After all I have to keep reminding myself this is a small home instrument 3m 14ranks and 2 sets of chimes!</p>

    Cymbell</p>





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    I believe both Peterson and Syndyne to be excellent systems. Either one is available with complete wiring harnesses. Neither is inexpensive as a complete system; but I think that both offer good value for the money. I have Peterson at home and our organ at church is mostly Peterson but with some Syndyne components in both consoles.</P>


    I prefer Syndyne's drawknobs to Peterson's, but I prefer Peterson's SAMs to Syndynes. I would suggest choosing whichever supplier fits your needs the best; either way you should not be disappointed.</P>


    I would not call 3-manuals, 14-ranks a small home instrument. Sounds nice!</P>


    Good luck!!</P>

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      I highly recommend Syndyne...their tech support has been amazing. I know next to nothing about the stuff and they carefully walk me thru all the processes...such as programming the stoptabs from the ranks etc.


      It turns out everything is so easily programmable I wish now I had endeavered to get more into that aspect of it but am making up for lost time now!


      With that many ranks/manuals you need to make sure you get a system that will cover future expansion.


      My former organ tec installed the smallest Syndyne system on my console and it is limited to 2 manuals, 16 pedal stops, and 20 stops each for swell and great. That was fine when I was only doing 5 ranks of pipes....but it is SEVERELY limiting for me as I can basically only have the 8' pitch on a stoptab for each rank (i'm going to be about 25 ranks within the year on the organ so I'm REALLY wanting a more expandable console switching sytem than the level that I got. The low end model was fine for a small unit organ..but with so many ranks being added it is quite constraining.

      I plan on using the "guts" of the Syndyne in my HOltkamp console to redo the Reuter 822 console someday whenver I do replace the 2 manual holtkamp console for a big 4 or 5 manual console someday...but that is for the future.


      back on topic...i do highly recommend Syndyne...really nice folks to work with. I don't know anything about Peterson, but they may be just as nice to work with as well.



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        The Syndyne is so easily added to in terms of just adding ranks....you simply wire in a rank, and daisy chain the driver board with a phone cord to another already wired in board and thats it....and the programming options are just amazing.....for the larger system they sell they have basically the option of a 11 division organ.



        I actually plan on doing that top end system next from Syndyne when I find a large console I like.

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          Cymbell,</p>

           NYCFarmboy is the one I was telling you about who has been very pleased with his Syndyne.  Tomorrow I will show you my homebuilt solid state relays and MIDI system.  Both of these are the absolute cheapest and dirtiest, but they do work very well.</p>

           -Trevor </p>

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            You might check out Artison Instruments. I have their Micromidi components running my 7 ranks. Just finished midi swell shade control. I've used them for maybe 5 years or so. Good quality hardware and support. 14 ranks certainly isn't a small home organ. Tell us more about the project.</P>


            Al</P>

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              Re: Solid State Question

              For the past couple of years I've been involved with several rebuild/new organ projects in the Atlanta area. We've been using only Peterson systems. The tech support is really great and the systems work very well. I can tell you that NONE of the "brand name" solid state systems are cheap. Get ready to shell out thousands of bucks. I also really like the Peterson swell engines. They are strong and easy to program.

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                Ilike SSOS (formerly known as SSL), I suppose because it is what I know best.</P>


                I'm doing a concert tonight on an organ with a brand new Peterson system, and am finding it a bit 'twiddly'.</P>


                To select a different crescendo setting</P>
                <UL>
                <LI>you must press the 'menu' button</LI>
                <LI>turn a knob until you have the Crescendo menu</LI>
                <LI>press 'enter'</LI>
                <LI>turn the knob again, to choose'select cresc level'</LI>
                <LI>press 'enter'</LI>
                <LI>turn the knob until you have the crescendo level you want</LI>
                <LI>press 'back' or 'home'</LI>[/list]


                On the SSL (SSOL) system, each of the four crescendo settings has its own dedicated button with an LED;on another organ I play, these are on thumb pistons. You can change crescendo settings in the middle of a piece! Unless I am missing something, this wouldn't be possible with the Peterson system.</P>


                The Peterson system has very tiny buttons, withoutany 'feedback' - the only way to know if you've pressed it is to look at the display; the SSL systems I've used have both a tactile and audible 'click'. The Peterson knob is very tiny, and the detents are extremely small - you can bypass a selection several times if you are in a hurry.</P>


                But theseare relatively minor quibbles; the crescendo selection issue is probably unimportant to those folks who wouldn't touch a crescendo pedal with a ten-foot barge pole. [;)]</P>


                Something a bit more major - I notice that if the crescendo shoe is tipped just a bit, the system will not allow me to set any piston. This is a much bigger irritation! The crescendo pedal on this (very old) organ is a bit rough, and it is sometimes hard to know if it is fully off. I had several instances of registering a complex combination (this is a big instrument), then when I would go back to play the piece, several of the pistons had nothing on them and the registrations had to be re-created from scratch. [:@]</P>

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