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  • #61
    I also had the tiny red (Nyleze) enamel coated wires on one of the manuals and the Peterson Pedal system (88 in all). I used small strips of folded sandpaper,220 grit, to clean a bit of enamel off the end 1". Then, holding the wire with needle nosed pliers, I used a lighter to get the wire red hot which burns off the remaining enamel. Worked like a charm and only took me an hour.
    I noticed that Nyleze is being used a lot lately for electronics while searching YouTube tutorials on stripping it.
    Now that I'm installing the wires onto Artisan Organ circuits boards, I trying to figure out how to do a quick disconnect/connect if console needs to be moved separate from the pedalboard. I won't securely screw Pedal circuit board inside the case, thus only unplugging input to controller and lifting cable and board from console.
    I have 5 circuit boards: pedalboard 25 wires plus common, Accompany/Choir - 61 plus com, Great - 61 plus com, Solo - 61 plus com, Pistons - 50 plus com. They recommend 2 or 3 circuit boards per "microMIDI" controller to avoid latency if running them all on one controller board. The commons can be daisy chained and linked to any "microMIDI" circuit board. My two "microMIDI: circuit boards can be daisy chained together and have MIDI input and MIDI out receptacles. One gets linked to linked to a cakewalk digital adapter with a USB A/USB output for the computer. I couldn't get a pic to upload, there good examples in the Artisan Organ System manuals on their site. There...that's clear as mud ;)

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    • #62
      Ah, yes that's the same ones! That's why it was so hard to strip, it was enamel! My approach was to use the manual (flat edge) part of my finest wire strippers, then strip off a bit at a time, turning the wire to get it all. They made good connections, so I must have done it right!
      Last edited by Larason2; 03-05-2024, 06:15 PM.

      Current: Allen 225 RTC, W. Bell reed organ, Lowrey TGS, Singer upright grand
      Former: Yamaha E3R
      https://www.exercisesincatholicmythology.com

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      • AZSteve
        AZSteve commented
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        as long as all the enamel was removed, they should work. I found sandpaper then heat to wok the best and fastest.

    • #63
      Finally! All keys, pistons, pedals, have good continuity. All are installed on 5 Artisan circuit boards. I have a layout fashioned which will neatly hold all boards and their (2) Micro-MIDI controller boards.have all cables to join the circuit boards together and to Micro-MIDI control boards. awaiting a couple 5 pin MIDI cables and some tiny (#4) screws to fasten them to the main wood board under the case lid.Everything should be ready to rumble by my birthday in April.
      I couldn't have done all this without all the help here and from Artisan. They were disappointed I wasn't going to use their sound engines, but I have a lot invested in Hauptwerk already.
      Thank you all especially Larason.
      Steve

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      • #64
        Glad it's working out, it's going to be great!

        Current: Allen 225 RTC, W. Bell reed organ, Lowrey TGS, Singer upright grand
        Former: Yamaha E3R
        https://www.exercisesincatholicmythology.com

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        • #65
          All wiring to circuit boards done. All boards linked to Micro-MIDI controller boards with MIDI interface (Cakewalk) ready for computer. Now to install a shelf in the empty space withing the case for the computer, Scarlett 2i2 Interface and MIX 12 channel mixer. Then out to amps and speakers. (fingers crossed)0 About a week, I think.
          Steve

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          • #66
            Hi, I'm back...
            Wiring to encoder done. Encoder to MIDI done. MIDI to computer done. Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen to computer with updated drivers done.
            Question: For Audio Input Specialists; What to plug in to inputs of Scarlett, or is the computer link enough as computer's only output line is the stereo headphone jack ?
            The Line Outs will go to my mixer then amps and speakers.
            (I'm probably over-thinking this :rolleyes:)
            Steve

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            • Larason2
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              The Scarlett communicates with the computer via the USB cord. No other inputs are needed for it.

          • #67
            The computer for my VPO Is a new Dell Optiplex 5000 i9 SSD 64G Ram 2TB. Will it need extra cooling for the CPU with it running 3-4 hours at a stretch? It is not set up for gaming, on the internet, and is exclusive to the VPO. I do hook up the internet rarely to update drivers if need be. I use Malwarebytes for security.
            Steve

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            • Larason2
              Larason2 commented
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              If it comes with cooling, that should be enough, but you might find it a bit noisy for your purposes. Hauptwerk can heat up the chips a lot, as it does on one of the M1-M4 mac minis. You can always upgrade it with a quieter fan. Going to a liquid cooling system or something like that is possible, but I would think it is a bit overkill.

          • #68
            Thanx for that. It means I'm ready to start the layout of amps and speakers. The computer won't be in the case as it is too cumbersome with the required wiring. I have a tower stand for it and the Focusrite Scarlett. I can put the computer keyboard and mouse on the top. I'll put the 12 channel mixer in the space the computer was supposed to go. The Palace back has one small opening for power. I use my circular drill saw to cut another for all the cables.
            Finally! Thanks to you Larason and many others, I've achieved my dream.
            Steve

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            • #69
              UGH! I had order new cables and adapters for the Dell "Display Ports" as the adapter they sent for VGA wouldn't fit and was way to short. I ordered 2 Display Port to VGA plugs which work very nicely. I found I had 2 x 50ft coils of speaker cables. Great, except they're not "balanced". (I wondered where that AC hum was coming from.) Two new balanced cables coming tomorrow.
              Now I'm in process of laying out computer, mixer and amps with appropriate cables and ensuring everything will have power. There's a large 6 plug heavy outlet inside organ case to a surge protected system outside with 4 protected outlets and 6 unprotected as well as 2 protected charging ports. I realized I don't need the 2 monitors' sound outlets as the computer sound card won't be used much with the Focusrite Scarlett handling sound. The 2 Truth B2031A speakers have power to them and are awaiting balanced cables and their balanced plugs.
              By the time this is up and running, I could have purchased a system already done. But I wouldn't have learned anything and had as much fun. I've dreamed of having a Pipe organ or good Allen/Rodgers in my home. The Roland 900 Platinum is nice but struggles to match the sound of VPO systems. Now I have to learn how to adjust sounds, volume, quality, how to record with the Hauptwerk. Learning all this new stuff is the best part for me.
              Steve

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