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    What would you most like to hear?</P>


    Assuming the organ is a large, new instrument in North America.</P>


    Would you like to hear an album that shows off different compositional styles, or would you rather hear something by one composer or one style of repertoire (such as baroque, romantic, etc.).</P>


    Would you prefer old favorites, or would you be more inclined to buy the CD if it had unfamiliar music? Do you have a composer in mind, that is terribly under-represented on recordings?</P>


    Or a favorite theme, such as "Carillons", or perhaps "Toccatas"?</P>


    Organ and performer aside, what repertoire would lead you to buy a particular CD?</P>


    Thanks. [;)]</P>

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    I would like to hear an album with music by Alexandre Guilmant, my favorite composer. There doesn't seem to be much of his work recorded. I have only one piece of his, and it's a Christmas offertory.

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    • #3
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      Thanks for responding!</P>


      Aha, so that IS Guilmant as your Avatar! I thought he looked familiar. [:D]</P>


      I've got a number of nice recordings of Guilmant's music, but will admit they are a bit hard to find.</P>


      There is one called "Guilmant Garnishes" recorded by Charles Callahan at Church of the Epiphany in Washington D.C.</P>


      I have "Guilmant in America", recorded by James Hammann on a really wonderful old Farrand &amp; Votey in Kentucky.</P>


      I have several other CDs to recommend:</P>


      A series on the Motette label called "Alexandre Guilmant - Ausgewählte Orgelwerke". My favorite volumes are #6, recorded on the very wonderful, early Cavaillé-Coll at St-Omer. The other volume (I believe it is volume #1) was recorded on a tiny Cavaillé-Coll in a Belgian monastery (I think) which sounds like a huge cathedral instrument. </P>


      I'm rather befuzzled at the moment, as I just discovered this disk is missing from my library and does not appear to be easily findable. [:(] This is a common occurrence in my house - I'll have look for it later. But it will bother me until I do find it. Hopefully I will find it -I'm sure it would be nearly impossible to replace it.</P>


      The other disk that is truly wonderful - Agnes Armstrong playing Guilmant Noëls at the Kallio Church in Helsinki. This is a fantastic, fairly new organ built in the style of Cavaillé-Coll. I had the good fortune to play it several years ago, and was quite impressed. [:)]</P>


      That's all the all-Guilmant albums I believe I have in my library. Sorry to get a bit off-topic, but since you are a fan I thought I'd mention those.</P>

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      • #4
        Re: If you could request material for a CD...

        I'd like to see transcriptions of Aaron Copland's big orchestral works. :)



        Soubasse of course beat me to this one, but regards Guilmont, I have it as well.....I HIGHLY recommend it.
        "Guilmont in America", not his work mostly but I do recommend the CD..the organ sounds amazing...awesome accoustic......Seriously: a very well recorded CD at least from a audio/technical standpoint....the organ sounds amazing. It is close by, I should get down there and photograph/record it myself someday.



        from the OHS blurb:

        Recreating Guilmant’s first recital in America (played in 1893 at the Chicago World’s Fair on the Farrand & Votey) James Hammann records on the restored 1894 Farrand & Votey at St. Martin of Tours Church in Louisville, Kentucky. LEMMENS: Sonata No. 1 Pontificale BACH: Toccata in F BWV 540 SCHUMANN: Canon in B Minor, Op. 56, No. 5 MENDELSSOHN: Sonata No. 3 in A GUILMANT: Marche Funebre et Chant Seraphique; Invocation in B-Flat, Final in E-Flat

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        • #5
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          [quote user="NYCFarmboy"]I'd like to see transcriptions of Aaron Copland's big orchestral works. :)[/quote]</P>


          Uh... [8-)]</P>


          [sn][sn][sn]</P>

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          • #6
            Re: If you could request material for a CD...

            A set of CD's with all the organ works of Jean-Jacques Grunenwald played on the "magic machine" in St. Sulpice.

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            • #7
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              What I'm missing is some french baroque on some good organs like the Dom Bedos. Some italian older music is also missing from my collection like Bruna on one of those old italian cathedral organs. I'd love to have a complete Pachelbel set on some south german organs. And then a whole lot of cd's on all those tiny organs of 16-17th century with all unknown composers. Also missing some music by the sons of Bach. I do have a recording of CPhE but it isn't to my liking.

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              • #8
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                [quote user="soubasse32"]Assuming the organ is a large, new instrument in North America.[/quote]</P>


                Sorry folks- Dom Bedos organs, South German organs, and the "magic machine" at St-Sulpice are not part of the equation. [:|]</P>

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                • #9
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                  Personally, if I never see another CD with all the usual lollipops, that's alright with me. Why every organ collection has to have BWV 565 is beyond me. Anyway, you can probably tell that I'd be on for more obscure repertoire, but repertoire SUITED to the instrument. I have no interest in hearing Buxtehude or Couperin on an enormous modern organ in a swirling acoustic. One more thing: a mix of loud and soft please. Too many organ CDs are absolute blasters with virtually no subtlety whatsoever. I'd like to hear the flutes as well as the tubas!</p>

                  Incidentally, regarding Guilmant, Ben ven Oosten's set on MDG is very well thought of. I don't have it myself, but knowing his work elsewhere, I'd expect it to be top-drawer.</p>

                  Si
                  </p>

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                  • #10
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                    On an American instrument, I'd love to hear some American music of course...

                    How about Sowerby's Carillon? Assuming you have chimes and a celesta at your disposal on the imagined instrument.

                    The Charles Ives Variations on America are quite fun, but I'm not what others on the board feel about them!

                    And of course, for some ridiculous fun...

                    The Rumba sur les Grands Jeux by Pierre Cholley - I'm tempted to learn it myself for an all-French recital soon.

                    Have a listen on the site below...

                    http://gerardbrooks.org.uk/index.php?d=3&amp;c=1

                    </P>

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                    • #11
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                      I personally would love to hear a bit more of Bach's concerto in a minor after Vivaldi. I don't know why, but that piece just sets my mind on edge (in a good way!)</p>

                      Also, I'd like to hear the same piece played a few different ways. Take something nice and juicy, like the passacalia in c minor by Bach or maybe a mendelssohn sonata, and have several people play it in different ways with different interpretations!</p>

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                      • #12
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                        I doubt that anyone is interested in my desires because I have so little exposure in this area. However, I am fond of the Gigout "Dialogue" and don't have it on any of my CDs so far. I also have a nice LP of Antonio Soler's music for multiple organs, played in the cathedral of Toledo--I'd love to have a CD of that music. I don't really care where the music is played as long as the instrument(s) are appropriate. Surely there is someplace in the US that would meet those criteria.</P>


                        David</P>

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                        • #13
                          Re: If you could request material for a CD...

                          [quote user="soubasse32"]
                          <UL>
                          <LI>What would you most like to hear?</LI>
                          <LI>Assuming the organ is a large, new instrument in North America.</LI>
                          <LI>Would you like to hear an album that shows off different compositional styles, or would you rather hear something by one composer or one style of repertoire (such as baroque, romantic, etc.).</LI>
                          <LI>Would you prefer old favorites, or would you be more inclined to buy the CD if it had unfamiliar music? Do you have a composer in mind, that is terribly under-represented on recordings?</LI>
                          <LI>Or a favorite theme, such as "Carillons", or perhaps "Toccatas"?[/quote]</LI>[/list]


                          Your word repertoire stops me in my tracks. For one, I hate listening to music generally, but usually intensely dislikemusicunless it's something different. I guess I'd have to be extremely bored to sit and listen to 3-5 recordings of Toccata and Fugue just to hear the difference in nuance. I'm past the academic pursuit stage.</P>


                          That said, I'd say that it depends on your audience. For me, I'm interested in hearing something new, something inventive, something fresh. That's what makes memorable performances by the likes of Biggs, Fox, and their ilk.</P>


                          After listening to the Animusic DVDs, I was immediately caught by the fresh, new, and inventive nature of the medium. Then I imagine what Cathedral Pictures (http://www.animusic.com/clips/cathedral-pictures.html) would sound like in real life with a great pipe organ (OK, digital may do![;)]). Right now, I have a student who is a drummer and a guitarist I'd like to try out with the organ to see what we could do with it. I realize it takes a skill set, to which most classical musicians don't have easy access.</P>


                          Not sure if this answers your request, and I'm sure it's probably not what you had in mind, but maybe someone else on the forum who has time may be able to take these ideas and run with them. At 90+ hours per week, I just don't have the time!</P>


                          Thanks for the topic.</P>


                          Michael</P>
                          Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
                          • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
                          • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
                          • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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                            Re: If you could request material for a CD...



                            [quote user="myorgan"]For one, I hate listening to music generally, but usually intensely dislikemusicunless it's something different. [/quote]</P>


                            [:O]and [^o)]</P>


                            You would be a difficult 'customer' to please! </P>


                            [quote user="myorgan"]That said, I'd say that it depends on your audience.[/quote]</P>


                            Identifying the audience for a commercially-available CD is a tough thing to do - one assumes that it would be anyone and everyone who is interested in classical organ music.</P>


                            [quote user="tumult_in_the_praetorium"]On an American instrument, I'd love to hear some American music of course... How about Sowerby's Carillon? Assuming you have chimes and a celesta at your disposal on the imagined instrument.[/quote]</P>


                            American musiccould be a great suggestion...it depends. I'mextremely partial to Sowerby myself, but I find a lot of organists don't really care for his music. Unfortunately, there are no harps &amp; chimes on the organ in question.</P>


                            Thanks Timothy for tipping me off about the Pierre Cholley piece. I hadn't heard it. Gerard Brooks is among my favorite players, by the way.</P>


                            [quote user="Pipedreamer"]I personally would love to hear a bit more of Bach's concerto in a minor after Vivaldi. I don't know why, but that piece just sets my mind on edge (in a good way!)</P>


                            Also, I'd like to hear the same piece played a few different ways. Take something nice and juicy, like the passacalia in c minor by Bach or maybe a mendelssohn sonata, and have several people play it in different ways with different interpretations![/quote]</P>


                            Bach/Vivaldi is out of the question, as the last recording featured exactly that material. Having several performers is a very interesting idea, but this recording will only have one performer.</P>


                            [quote user="davidecasteel"]I also have a nice LP of Antonio Soler's music for multiple organs, played in the cathedral of Toledo--I'd love to have a CD of that music. I don't really care where the music is played as long as the instrument(s) are appropriate. Surely there is someplace in the US that would meet those criteria.[/quote]</P>


                            There is only one organ in the venue, so Soler double-organ stuff is out.</P>


                            It is funny how just about everyone suggested something that won't quite work! [:D]</P>


                            What I will go along with, is Simon's recommendation for subtle pieces as well as loud ones.</P>


                            Keep the ideas coming!</P>

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                            • #15
                              Re: If you could request material for a CD...

                              Personally, I tend to shy away from buying CDs that are of a single composer. What might be interesting is a CD that pairs familiar works with lesser known works from the same period (i.e. two toccatas from the same period, pieces based on the same chorale melody, trumpet tunes, Adagios, etc.). I have to admit that if I see Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor on a track listing, the CD doesn't make it into my collection. I have too many recordings of it already.

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