Cornet made from reed stops

[Guest]

It know that if you add together an 8' 4' 2 2/3' 2' and 1 3/5' flutes, you get a cornet sound. What happens if you add all those stops together with reed stops?

[FrenchHorn8]

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I bet it just sounds like poop.

[Menschenstimme]

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Skubala? (cf. Philippians 3:8)

But seriously, I have heard of 32-foot series cornet-like composite stops that include some reeds. These are rather rare and I have never encountered one live nor even heard one on a recording.

[back52887]

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Get your hands on a later model Consonatta, or and early model Conn (C1960), either of which had intra- couplers at all those pitches + 16', and only 8' manual voices. Couple the Oboe at the desired pitches - the result is rather raucus and of little use.

I do believe there there were fractional reed pitches on the Midmer-Losch behemoth, and on a few other concert organs like Kimball in the 1920s. But I could be wrong[:$]

Lee

[soubasse32]

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The only reed mutations I'm aware of are reed quints, and those are only on very large instruments in reverberant spaces.

Cornets are most effective when they are in perfect tune,in perfect balance, and perfect blendfrom bottom to top (of the five note Cornet "chord") - this is much easier to do with flue stops.

Just think - a large organ may have 15 ranks of reed stops; a reed Cornet would add 5 more ranks - it would takemany, many hoursto tune & regulate such a contraption! (With plenty of ear protection too)

Another reason is that the foundation tone needs to be loud enough to 'absorb' the mutation ranks (so they don't stick out as individual pitches). For that to happen with a reed Cornet, the organ would have to befrightfully loud.

Thankfully, there are very few situations that call for an earslplitting instrument. [:)]

[Guest]

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I agree with Soubasse. I have only seen a few HUGE organs with reed
mutations. As for the reed Cornet, please dont try it at home!!!

[KleinErzahler]

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Interesting. I think it's worth hauling out some pipes to see what it would sound like. Nevertheless, the composite nature of a Cornet seems to me to be contrary to the individual beauty and flexibility that many reeds offer. Plus the compass would be somewhat short by necessity.

- N

[Guest]

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The Boardwalk Hall organ by Midmer-Losh in Atlantic City has several off-unison reed mutations....

also the Cadet Chapel organ in Westpoint...the Military Trumpet is a unit reed in the Harmonic Division and goes up as high as 1ft. The reed cornet made from this unitized voice as individual pitches is quite surprisingly effective and sounds better than a flue-pipe Cornet...

[Chapelpipes]

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IIRC the Cadet Chapel Trombone was available at 16-8-4 in addition to 10 2/3 & 5 1/3'. The Military Trumpet was available at 16-8-4-2-1 & 10 2/3-5 1/3-2 2/3- 1 1/3. In addition, there was the Trombone 12th, 15th and 17th. This is just the Pedal.

When you have individual stops available you compose your own Cornet. Balance and blend is a reflection of your abilities.

And, with all respect, NO, it does not have to get frightfully loud. That would be its' undoing.

Chapelpipes