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    ye to everyone! I discovered fropm some days this great communication forum. There are a lot of many intersting arguments and threads and probably I cannot review all of them in a short time..

    I'm a Pipe organ entusiast and, with some friends, I joined a committe
    in order to make real our old dream: have a great, monumental organ
    inspired to ancient Francois Dom Bedos rules.. now this dream is
    becoming real, and I invite you to visit our site



    http://www.organosandomenicorieti.it



    And I hope if someone of this forum could visit us really to enjoy with our future great organ.

    Our purpose is absolutely no profit and we want organize music festivals, organ festivals, masters activities and so on...



    See you later, guys!

    Please, replay me for your impressions about our "mad" organ projects..



    Bye from Center Italy


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    Welcome to the Organ Forum, dombedos!




    I am a big fan of classical Frenchorgans, and closely followed theconstruction of the organ at Saint-Croix in Bordeaux.




    The two volumes of "L'Art du Facteur d'Orgues"are amongthe most prized books in my collection.




    I have also seen and played several Formentelli organs, and am very excited to read of your project. [:)]




    I can only hope to visit someday, and perhaps will play the new organ...?




    I wish you success in your endeavors!

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      Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ

      Welcome, and good for you that you are witnessing the birth of what will become a great organ. Sadly I'm not good enough in italian to make much of the site, but it sure looks good.

      Soubasse, I never knew there was an edition of Dom Bedos in 2 parts. I always found them in 4 parts. If anyone is looking for an edition of it, there is a "recent" re-edition still available. It is a facsimile, not easy to read. Printed by Slatkine: http://www.slatkine.com/cgi/run?wwfr...egts1+19564112 Not cheap!

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        [quote user="Havoc"]Soubasse, I never knew there was an edition of Dom Bedos in 2 parts. I always found them in 4 parts. If anyone is looking for an edition of it, there is a "recent" re-edition still available. It is a facsimile,not easy to read. Printed by Slatkine: http://www.slatkine.com/cgi/run?wwfr...egts1+19564112 Not cheap![/quote]




        Havoc -I have a two-volume limited edition facsimile, printed by Sunbury Press. Not cheap, indeed!




        However, it was a lot less expensive thanthose old editionsI've seen on the internet- - - for $10,000! [:O]

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          Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ



          Havoc, there is an English version of that site available--look for the link.




          DomBedos, I wish you the best with your ambitious project. I'm sure the music will be worth it.




          David

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            [quote user="davidecasteel"]Havoc, there is an English version of that site available--look for the link.[/quote]




            David,




            I visited the English site, and several of the links do not work.




            However, I was able to go to www.google.com, and just to the right of where you enter the search, there are three options. The bottom option is called "Language tools." If you click on that, you can paste the webpage address (where it asks for a URL), and choose "Italian to English," and the translation that results is quite acceptable. There are always some issues with gender (their nouns have gender, where ours do not), but one can usually figure out what is intended by the original text.




            Hope this helps.




            Michael

            Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
            • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
            • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
            • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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              Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ



              Thank you to you, sirs, for your welcome. [:D]



              I'm honored to hear your comments and your whishes about our adventure, and I'm sorry if the english traslation is coarse and incomplete. During Christmas holydays, I'll attempt to perform a website revision, in order to allow to you a better confortable visit...



              Mr Soubasse, You will be the welcome at our organ and you will can play it as you want. Our committe purpose is to share the organ music and generally the music experience and culture. We (in the Committe) aren't a real experts but only enthusiast persons, that have realized now a dream.



              I'm visited the organ works on the factory, and the Dom Bedos Organ is really fantastic, with 13.30 meters height and the fine-art wood realization.. to reach the great organ floor, you need to up 5.50 meters from the floor.. [;)]



              See you later, gentlemens!



              Filippo, from center Italy






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                Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ

                I looked around a bit more on the site and would like to ask the following: did I understand it correctly that you are going to build the organ proposed in the third part of the Dom Bedos book, the "second proposal" for "an ordinary 32' " organ"?

                I f so, then good luck to you that you can witness this being build and able to play it! I hope to visit it one day.

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                  hi!
                  Yes, our project is a mix between them! so, the Great Organ is really based on a Montre 32', real from F1 ; first 5 pipes are wooden, closed. The first stain pipe is on-view, and its measure is about 7 meters. There is a III Resonance keyboard, with double-valves in the windchest. It is not clearly easy to play, but our purpose is to issue same Masters about to play a DOm Bedos great Organ [;)]



                  There is a french style pedal, but it can be mounted with a right-germany pedal as alternate option..



                  You are welcome in Italy, not first June 2008, I think.. this is the date in order to have this organ running..




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                    Hi to everyone!
                    I'm happy to make a announcement .. finally, next monday some trucks will arrive in our city to delivery our Dom Bedos Organ. We are waiting for it from long time, and now the dream is coming!



                    The assembly work will have entire summer duration, and we hope to give a good hospitalty to Organ builder boys during all period of the work. After Organ assembly (about 3 months) mr. Formentelli will start complete organ tuning to give the voice to our organ.. I'm waiting this period [:|]




                    To see the last photos in fab before Organ dismantle, go to our site and see this page.. keep in mind : the higher Organ part cannot be mounted because the atelier height was less than 10 meters ! The higher towers part and the main pipes will be mounted here only!



                    http://www.organosandomenicorieti.it/foto_VI_stato_en.htm



                    See you later.. and if you will stay in Italy for some reason, write me freely to visit the works, or , better the whole organ next dicember [:D]




                    Filippo

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                      Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ



                      I have just revisited the Project site and could not access the Stop List from the English version, but the link on the Italian page does work. I think it is interesting that there is a 32' stop on the Great but the Pedal only has 16' stops at the bottom. Am I not reading that correctly? I guess one could couple the Great down to the Pedals, though.




                      David

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                        Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ



                        32' manual tone fits in with the French Classic tonal scheme, where the deepness of the manual plenum contrasts with the Pedal. In this registration, the pedal would play the cantus firmus on reed stops at 8' and 4'.




                        This was the typical function of the Pedal In the FrenchClassicera; itwas only occasionally called upon to provide bass.




                        There are lots of organswith 32'manual stops that can be used in this way - the Cathedral at Dijon comes to mind. Also Notre-Dame. And of course, the Dom Bédos organ at Ste-Croix in Bordeaux.




                        In the French Classical scheme it would bequite normal to have a32' stop in themanuals (on the largest organs however); on the contraryit would be quite unusual to have a 32' stop in the Pedal. In such organs it is not uncommon tosee these stops borrowed to the Pedal during Romantic-era or modern rebuilds.

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                          Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ

                          I am amazed at the amount of wood work on this organ. The balusters alone are a work of art!

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                            Ciao DomBedos,quello e' stupendo. Sono membro della questa lista dal 2004, l'informazione ele discussionesono indispensibile a me. Io ho proprio comprato e traslocato un piccolo organo americano da 3 regestri, dal 1935, costruito d'origine per una cappella, ma l'ho installito in casa. Il tuo website e' fantastico. La prosssima volta che io visita l'italia, Vi passero' a Rietia vedere l'organo. Benvenuto all' Organ Forum..




                            Jesse


                            Jesse Hargus
                            Portland, OR

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                              Re: Newbie - from Italy "Hello" with our DomBedos Organ



                              How common is it to have an En Chamade in a periodic instrument such as this? I noticed in all the Dom Bedos engravings there did not seem to be a provision for that particular stop--or is the stop simply moved out of the case in an En Chamade fashion (horizontal vs. vertical)?




                              I'm betraying my ignorance of organ building history here. Thanks in advance for your help.




                              Michael

                              Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
                              • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
                              • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
                              • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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