An organ with a new 128' stop!!!

[Guest]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M1zq3n...eature=related

[NYCFarmboy]

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LOL

I love the flashing red light..I need one of those! lol

[MD1032]

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Hilarious!!! That completely made my day.

[m&m's]

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[quote user="MD1032"]Hilarious!!! That completely made my day.
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That was good. It reminded of the cartoon on the back of the theatre organ society magazine, several years ago, which showed a priest on the front steps of the church talking to several guys from a glass replacement company, with all of the windows lying on the ground outside the church. The caption read "Our organist pulled out all of the stops yesterday."

[Clarion]

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Haaaaar!! I'm still giggling from that one!

From many, many years ago, Ihave a vague recollectionof a news item: Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto disabling the 32' stops on the stadium organ in repsonse to engineers' recommendations,that the 32 footers could cause significant structural damage in such an old building.

Urban myth . . . or reality??

[davidecasteel]

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Wouldn't the low C be4 Hz?

David

[Guest]

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Yep, thats right. A 32' is 16' cycles per second a 64' is 8 and a 128' is 4.

Alexander.

[Guest]

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The organ in Sydney Australia has a 64 trombone the low C of which it is said is speaking not at 8 cycles per second but alas at 4 cycles thus making that one low CCCCC pipe a half-length 128'.

The two 42-2/3 pedal mutation stops are part of the 128' harmonic series at West Point. The 21-1/3 is part of the 64ft; the 10-2/3 part of the 32'; the 5-1/3 part of the 16ft and the 2-2/3 part of the 8 ft harmonic series respectively.

[jskumro]

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So, is there actually a 128' pipe on the C, then? 

 I can't seem to find much on this. Even a 64' stop is somewhat rare, correct?  

[soubasse32]

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No, there is no real 128' pipe, anywhere in the world. The mutation stops mentioned may belong to the 128' harmonic series, but you won't find any physical pipe longer than 64' - and I'm not exactly sure about that - those examplesmight be stoppered (flue) or half-length (reed)pipes, with a physical length of 32'. [*-)]

There is a comical YouTube video showing an organ with a supposed 128' stop [edit: in re-reading this thread, I seethat video is what started this entire thread! [:$] ]

[davidecasteel]

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According to the on-line list of the world's largest organs, there are 2 instruments that have a full-length 64' stop that goes down to CCCC: the Midmer-Losh organ at Atlantic City Convention Center and the Hill, Pogson organ at the Sydney, Australia Town Hall. I had thought that the Wanamaker instrument in Philadelphia had one, but the 64' stop there is a resultant (same authority).

http://www.die-orgelseite.de/orgelliste_e.php(this is a fascinating site--many ways to select and sort the entries--lots of fun reading)

David

[jskumro]

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Thanks for the clarification. 

 That would be insanely cool if an Organ had an actual 128' Pipe. I would guess it wouldn't need to be used often... If at all. However it is pretty cool. 64'  stops seem rare, and I've never personally heard one. I have however heard a 32' Bourdon... Meaning the pipes are 16' (Correct?) And the sound was pretty deep and quite.. It shook the Organ loft. Having a 64' Stop must be thrilling. 

 

[soubasse32]

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Well... [*-)] ... there is a limit at which humans can no longer discern pitch, and a limit at which humans can actually enjoy the effect of the pitch.

For example, it is hard for most people todiscern the lowest notes of a 32' flue pipe, unless there is a 16' along with it. The effects can be felt, and as we know the sensation is impressive.

I've never cared for 64' Gravissima stops - the result seems to confuse the ear, andI'm not sure how mybody feels about those low frequencies. [:|]

I've heard some 64' reed stops and was similarly unimpressed. To me, they might be effective on a low B, B-flat, or A in order to give a furtherfeeling of finality to some works written in those relatively high keys. Butany organ withsufficiently powerful 32' stops does just fine.

128' pitch is something else altogether;I cannot imagine any musical use for it. Mostlarge 32' instrumentshave plenty enough excitement for me! [:)]

[Guest]

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If you just consider how long it would take to get that 128' column of air to begin to vibrate and produce any perceptible "sound(?)", you'd never really hear the thing, even if it were a reed under extremely high pressure.

[davidecasteel]

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I can't find it any more (and neither can Google) but some years ago I remember someone had built an enormous belled horn that sounded CCCCC (2 Hz). It was a reed pipe and I think it operated on 200 inches pressure (or maybe a lot more). Of course, no one could hear the pitch, but almost everything in its vicinity felt it. I don't remember what it was built for--testing something or other, I think. It was a full-length resonator and stretched across several flatbed truck bodies; the horn was about 25' tall and wide.

David